Blastasaurus,

The Gardiner in Toronto desperately needs to be pulled down (before people die) and replaced with tunnels.

The viaduct in Vancouver is being torn down but I don’t think they plan to build a tunnel. It’s the fastest way into downtown from East Van.

The difference between these inevitable projects and Dusseldorf is that property value in Canadian cities is so insane that developers will likely push for the construction of biggest types yet in these cities.

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

I’d say riverfront land in Düsseldorf has developers drooling also. It all comes down to will, and / or corruption

buzz,
@buzz@lemmy.world avatar

I like the 1990 picture more, has some industrial charm to it.

DrinkBoba,

Amazing place! I’m from there. The Rhein is amazing and it’s a great park right next to the old district.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

are yall ever warry of france?

DrinkBoba,

I love France they’re our EU brothers and sisters. Strong together.

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Bro how can you be so cucked? I’m also from an EU country but I refuse to suck France’s cock

GentooPhysicist,

Are you French perchance? Because complaining about the French is just about the most French thing I can imagine.

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Better dead than Fr*nch

Silviecat44,

Why did you put the title in quotes

Caminsky,

c/unnecessaryquotes

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

because the cars are still there just OutofSight

InternetTubes,

Titles are OP not realizing that the roads have been moved underground and are still there even though the picture doesn’t suit his metropolitan dystopia thematic preferences. Or at least that’s the only way they make sense.

kroy,

who hurt you?

marmo7ade,

Correct. The far left is as vain as the far right.

InternetTubes, (edited )

As opposed to trying to frame everything into the left-right pantheon? Did treating this as a completely separate environmental / city planning concern hurt people’s brain?

Tomad,

you think it’s vain to want visible nature?

TheGreatHerald,

It’s a bit vain to want it at the expense of logical city planning. If the destruction of that road caused major traffic issues or inhibited road access to areas, that would explain why OP added quotes.

kroy,

lol… jesus.

Ryumast3r,

Define logical city planning? Is a walkable, green area more desirable than an overgrown road or not?

Is traffic the end-all-be-all to city planning?

TheGreatHerald,

Logical city planning is planning a city in such a way that provides the greatest overall loving experience to it’s inhabitants and passers-through.

This depends on the location of the city. Traffic prevention and green spaces are 2 things that need to be balanced. If a road that thousands travel on daily is being demolished to make way for a park that a few hundred people will maybe use, then it could be doing more harm than good.

This is ultimately a decision for communities to make, not us armchair planners, and it looks like they valued the park more.

AchtungDrempels,

The traffic hasn’t gone, it’s in a tunnel below the promenade.

Aceticon, (edited )

By your own definition “logical city planning” is best done with a good and well integrated public transportation network and the spaces thus freed by having fewer cars being repurposed for uses with proven health benefits compared to roads … which just happen to be green spaces as there are actual proven benefits for human mental and physical health, both from the greenery and the reduction in noise an particulate polution when big roads with heavy traffic are removed.

Favoring individual cars in a urban environment is actually worse in pretty much every metric: not just mental and physical health but even timewise as better public transportation means way less time wasted in traffic jams, because of all the cars removed from the road and because paradoxically more roads incentivise more cars, so new/bigger roads solve traffic jam problem for a while and then eventualyl it get as bad or worse than before only now there are even more cars, hence more people, stuck in traffic, so more public transportation means shorter commuting times even when you reduce the number/size of roads.

I get the impression that your logic in thinking of more roads for cars as “logical city planning” comes from never having experienced living in an urban setting with a proper well integrated public transport network or widespread use of cycling for short commutes, which is a critical blindspot in knowledge when claiming to understand urban planning.

TheGreatHerald,

Sorry

Ryctre,

I’m sure the people of Duesseldorf are so thankful to have you as their road white knight.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

“Logical city planning” for you does not include planning a city that people enjoy living and breathing in. Just one that cars dominate more every year.

Yep, you’re American alright.

Hasuris,

After WW2 cities in NRW have been rebuilt with cars and cars only in mind. You’ve got major roads with 6 lanes crossing right through city centres and residential areas. Traffic is killing people. Roads in favor of public transport makes people buy cars if they want to go anywhere. More cars need more roads. It’s an endless cycle and results in hostile living environments. We need less cars. A lot less.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Yawn. We get that you love fascism

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

The before reminds me of Portland. The waterfront is wasted with i5 and roads running through it.

ZombieTheZombieCat,

That’s how I feel about SoCal. I noticed on Google Maps a lot of homes are taking up the sea cliffs south of LA. I always thought that all coastline in CA was public…

Jackolantern,

Why is there open and close quotations? Isn’t this progress?

marmo7ade,

BMW sold 10% more cars than the year before.

This is change. Progress is subjective.

Ryctre,

…what?

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

What’s with that?

jerkface,
@jerkface@lemmy.ca avatar

Because when the word “progress” is used, it is usually a loaded term with some specific connotations. The quotes indicate this is a reference to the word “progress”, not a use of the word “progress”, and it’s intended to draw your attention to the fact that this change, while clearly a positive and desirable one, contrasts strongly with what is usually meant when a person says it.

flyte,

Nice explanation, jerkface

flames5123,

I can’t wait to see Seattle’s viaduct on here when the full parks, sidewalks, and bike lanes get finished!

JizzmasterD,

I totally puked a litre of concentrated grape juice in that hot park in 1999.

Guess whose German wasn’t nearly as awesome as they thought it was…

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Look at all the people enjoying the waterfront now. It’s a beautiful sight to see.

That place found its humanity again.

Throwaway4669332255,

This is encouraging!

platysalty,

This is actual progress. I'd love for places to have more green

jungekatz,

I agree ! We unfortunately are cutting trees in favor or roads in india !

Naksh552007,
@Naksh552007@lemmy.world avatar

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  • RobertOwnageJunior,

    I don’t care what you think, but cutting more trees in favor of streets is just never a good idea in this day and age.

    thisNotMyName,

    Yeah, it will probably work out if all 1.4 billion people all drive alone in a car, occupying at least 15m² each. Needs one more lane, but then traffic will be solved!

    kicksystem,

    You don’t need more roads, you need better quality ones :)

    Diprount_Tomato,
    @Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

    Why more roads?

    PunnyName,

    How can I get this for Los Angeles?

    Kodemystic,
    @Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev avatar

    Dreaming

    Diprount_Tomato,
    @Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

    You can’t

    iampivot,

    We need this here in Brisbane as well.

    original2,

    Ive lost hope for London

    smellythief,

    Public transit and shared autonomous car usage.

    original2,

    Public transit and shared autonomous car usage.

    smellythief,

    Autonomous cats are now common in a couple of cities. No reason to think it won’t expand to more. Why not LA?

    Kaleunt17,

    2019er Bild sieht irgendwie nach Photoshop aus.

    Skellexon,
    @Skellexon@lemmy.world avatar

    Etwas. Is aber echt. Ist ganz hübsch dort

    Lobohobo,

    Die Farben sehen wegen der Abendsonne und der benutzten Kamera echt ein bisschen so aus, aber die Rheinpromenade ist echt sehr schön.

    sabaku_no_gaara,

    This guy said something photoshop related in German and I hope it is not a photoshop

    Cozy,

    He said it looks like it’s photoshop and not real, but it is real, it’s just the weird lighting that makes it look like it. (Hope you wanted a real answer and your comment wasn’t just joking, couldn’t tell)

    __mk__,
    @__mk__@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Why scare quotes? I lived in Düsseldorf back in '90 (go alts - that was the name of my school team, and yes it was sponsored by Alt bier 🍺… different times), it’s always been one of Germany’s more clean cut, upmarket cities, but this picture makes me want to go back and check it out again.

    Then again, I’m a queer transfem and I’m in BERLIN, THE QUEER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. Düsseldorf is in the last instance just meh.

    reev,

    Cologne is pretty gay and not far away. Come by during CSD!

    BatrickPateman,

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  • __mk__,
    @__mk__@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Sweetie did you read the part about being transfem? I dodrink coke, not beer ;)

    Nerorero,
    @Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Why not visit Hamburg? It’s like a cool version of Berlin

    Phoebe,

    I grew up next to Düsseldorf. I freaking love this city. Wouldn’t it be so expensiv i would live there.

    Because it is a magnet for anime fans, i early came in contact with queerness and different worldviews. Düsseldorf still has a big connection to art and due to figures like Joseph Beuys the art community is still pretty progressive. I went to university there and the campus had a progressiv Atmosphere there as well.

    But on the other side the city is full of rich and conservativ people. A weird contrast. I would say Düsseldorf is educated while cologne is more open and welcoming.

    Neikon,
    @Neikon@lemmy.world avatar

    More trees, more happiness

    smellythief,

    Less cars, more trees, more happiness.

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