I’ve tried it before but found it to be too cumbersome. I went back to just doing it all manually. Music isn’t pirated and organized in the same way TV and movies are.
I think sooner or later open source cars will be a thing. The problem (well, it’s a good thing) is that cars need to pass inspection to be road ready. But not bike-like vehicles.
This might shock you but cars where open source for years. Did you think those super detailed shop manuals anyone could buy where not intended to be used to work on the car? How about the massive aftermarket and any and all hot rods? This idea that you can’t fuck with you own stuff because its got a computer in it for “safety” is relatively new. Does no one else remember hooking a laptop up to the old ECUs and modifying how the engine works?
You can absolutely fuck with your car and install after market parts. But your car still needs to pass a minimum level of road safety. That’s for the common good. I mean things like having correct lights, crumple zones, brakes, mirrors etc. Now if you want to make a car that runs on used kit hen scraps I totally think you should. We should own. Own devices including their computer system. But I don’t just the average Joe with the parts that keep me safe from them.
Also, this might not shock you, but cars also used to suck in many ways. Not everything from the past is good.
The issue is normalizing the concept that you do not get to control what you paid for. Responsibility has not changed, you can drive your car into a crowded park and would still be guilty of it regardless of how stock it is. If you mod your stuff to be dangerous that would be a crime. In this case would you say that remote starting your car from your phone somehow is a public safety issue? At least if you jailbroke it to work on your own network?
These features require the cloud, which costs money and uses carbon. If you don’t want them, as many don’t, you shouldn’t have to force the company to price them in at the purchase.
I have a Telluride. I’ve been downgraded to Lite which gives you notifications if you forget to lock your car. But remote start is no longer available.
The way it worked seems to be polling since you could wait around up to a minute for the car to perform a command.
The worst part is the car does not have “local” remote start. I’d have to buy another piece of equipment for that and install it. It’s not available at all on the key fob.
Based on what others in the thread are saying, that’s already covered for free by the key fob. What they’re charging for is doing it through the internet.
The care package with roadside assistance seems reasonable, though your insurance usually already cover road assistance. The plus package is insane though, they charge that much just to enable remote start via their app?
Worth noting that these features appear to require your car to be connected to a cellular network. This isn’t the same as BMW charging a fee for heated seats.
They could have just put a SIM card in your car and required you to pay your cell phone provider for a connection.
You don’t need a cellular connection for long range, low bandwidth communication. There are networks such as Lora that don’t require a paid subscription to use.
That’s not what this is though. I have a Hyundai Tuscan that is always connected to a cellular network.
I can always connect with the car with my phone if both the car and phone have internet access. It’s also how the “find my car” feature works. And also I believe software updates (OS and maps).
I meant that they don’t have to use a cellular connection, they could use something else if they wished. LoRa is a two way data connection designed for low bandwidth, long distance. Range can be anywhere from 3-10 miles depending on obstructions/obstacles. There are other similar protocols out there.
That’s farther than a cell phone. A cell phone might get 3 miles maybe more if you have the high ground. It’s a lower frequency and therefore has a longer range. There are both public and private gateways for LoRa. So you can use it even if you don’t own or operate a gateway.
I have something similar for my Subaru but it’s only 4 dollars a month.
It’s a fee I gladly pay to be able to start my car and set the interior climate from my phone. I imagine there’s some cost the access a network to have that functionality and I don’t see a problem paying for it.
The old style that started from a key fob required you to be a lot closer to the vehicle to start it. Right now I start it a few minutes before I leave my building a quarter of a mile away. I could start it from a different country if I wanted to. Needing to be within a few hundred feet would be pretty useless to me.
Very personal opinion of mine, I hate subscription crap. However, I have to agree that, based on what you say, Subaru’s cost is much easier to digest than Hyundai/Kia POS.
Congrats on the new Subaru. I also happily paid for the app using the introduction 3 year plan. Hit me up when you hit year 4 and see the REAL price tag they charge.
What about when a security vulnerability is discovered and your car can be started and unlocked by someone else? That’s one of my concerns with smart features from companies that aren’t primarily tech companies
This is free elsewhere. The fact that you’re okay paying monthly for remote start is hilarious and sad. Probably don’t tell people you’re okay with this.
The tesla app does an INSANE amount of shit no other vehicle app does and its free. But you want to pay monthly to turn your car on 😆
I had found a bunch of complimentary materials to what I was watching on rutracker-dot-org. It’s not anime-oriented, but it can serve as a last place to search them.
ru tracker is actually very good but it rarely contains original content from what I have seen most content there is taken from other forums or trackers, I m talking about artbooks specifically
For the price of car it’s kinda cheap at first but the longer you used it became more & more expensive it was before you realize it
Imagine this scenario you bought the car for 100K + you pay for subscription for the car annually for 10$ + you had to pay for it’s maintenance at mechanic (things get broken the longer you used, you need to replace the broken part as soon as possible) + you had to pay your electricity or gasoline bills for fuel that car you used + emergency bills like towing the car, etc
No because this is only for connected services. All of those features work without any cost with the included remote. OP is expecting connected services for free for the life of the vehicle.
The Tesla works just fine without the app on your phone? You get a card that works as a key and don’t need a phone at all.
I’m assuming opening the car remotely means when you’re not near the car ( e.g.: at the office while that car is at home ). The touchscreen function isn’t nearly as horrible as you make it out to be, while I do agree a physical button is more practical in some cases.
Hyundai/Kia have also had their fair share of recent car troubles with recalls because they spontaneously catch fire wether you’re driving them or not.
Having said that I don’t really have an opinion on the brands. I know some people who drive it around and they all seem quite satisfied with the car. I’m sure they’re great cars :)
The jab @kia was only in jest. There are other brands who want to use subscriptions for things like seat heating, … Which I find a fecking awful evolution ( I’m looking at you bmw ).
IIRC you can also control it with the steering wheel without using the touch display as well.
If you press the button on the handle to trigger the wipers once. It will also bring up the menu on the screen ( bottom left ). You can then use the right wheel button on your steering wheel by pushing it left or right to move between off and auto with all the different speeds in between ( slower being near off and fast being near automatic ).
Source: I had a Tesla company car. Some things worked well. Other times the car felt quite cheap for being that expensive ( mainly interior and finishing ). The car paint seemed a lot thinner compared to European cars too. ( Company cars are common where I live, I’m not a rich big ass CEO )
Alternatively you can use the voice control as well apparently. I’ve only used the voice to initiate calls though
Time to begin the era of the DYI automobile. Buy a number of ~30v, high amperage batteries, an electric motor, jury rig the thing to a drivetrain and presto!
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