RANT: I hate the fact that my ISP can restrict access to certain sites

How can it possibly be, that an ISP, which I’m paying for gets to decid, which sites I’m allowed to have access to, and which not?

All the torrenting sites are restricted. I know, I can use VPN, and such… but I want to do it because of my privacy concerns and not because of some higher-up decided to bend over for the lobbying industry.

While on the other hand, if there’s a data breach of a legit big-corp website (looking at you FB), I’m still able to access it, they get fined with a fraction of their revenue, and I’m still left empty-handed. What a hipocracy!!

What comes next? Are they gonna restrict me from using lemmy too, bc some lobbyist doesn’t like the fact that it’s a decentralized system which they have no control over?

Rant, over!

I didn’t even know that my router was using my ISPs DNS, and that I can just ditch it, even though I’m running AdGuard (selfhosted)

DeltaTangoLima,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Censorship is wrong. Every rational, adult human being should have the fundamental right to their autonomy, without third party intervention, with full awareness of the laws that apply to them.

If they decide to abuse that freedom and awareness by accessing illegal content (even CSAM), then they are taking the risk of being discovered, prosecuted, and punished accordingly. And, in many cases (like CSAM), I hope they are caught and punished.

Regardless of the outcome, it still starts with the freedom for that individual to make that decision for themselves.

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

That’s part of the price of freedom. Tor is a browser that makes it hard to be tracked down, so people use it to facilitate illegal activities. Crypto is a currency that makes it hard to be tracked down, so the same occurs. While most of us use and support these services for legal activities, just to be free from corporate and government oppression, there will always be people who use them to be from legal consequences.

Sadly, making it easier to find people who do things like post CSAM in turn makes it easier to find people who want to watch Porn without supplying a government ID. (Still can’t believe my state of Virginia passed that law.)

DeltaTangoLima,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

people who want to watch Porn without supplying a government ID

Yeah, and this is where the part of my comment that discussed “laws that apply” is nuanced. If the laws that apply are designed to abridge people’s autonomy, and right to privacy, then that’s an unjust law.

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

No disagreement here, just unsure if there will ever be a way to grant freedom to the common man without enabling unsavory actors as well.

DeltaTangoLima,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Yeah, sadly there isn’t. I don’t envy lawmakers - there’s a knife edge they have to walk, between enabling them to catch the bad guys, but without infringing on the rights of the innocent.

hardcoreufo,

Unsavory actors will find ways around any restriction put in their way. So these restrictions only serve to remove freedoms from the rest of us not commiting unsavory acts.

Banzai51,
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

This is why we need more competition in the ISP space. And use a VPN.

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Or the FCC to make internet a utility and strip their ability to restrict access, throttle speeds, or be bias in any way. Always use a VPN. Getting Mullvad on my next paycheck.

dramaticcat,

Getting Mullvad on my next paycheck.

Good choice

XTornado,

No offense but if they can do that you have to blame your government not the ISP… as those are the ones allowing this to happen.

Honytawk,

Those companies choose to do so as well.

XTornado,

Yeah… But if there were laws that prohibited it they couldn’t do it that is my point.

tonyn,

Companies will do whatever legal measure makes them the most money.

Blackmist,

The government are the ones telling the ISPs to do it, not just allowing it.

loudWaterEnjoyer,
@loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The government is elected by people who care or don’t care about certain topics

RogueBanana,

The only choice he have here are stupid people and tech illiterate ones. Not a lot we can do except face palm at the ridiculously stupid solutions they come up with.

XTornado,

In some cases yes, but I would say that is allowing it too… Idk… I don’t see the need to nitpick but yeah.

nephs, (edited )

As if the government wasn’t controlled by probate lobbyists.

Blame goes to private interests being allowed to influence public decision makers, in my opinion. Infrastructure companies should not be for-profit companies.

nephs, (edited )

They already do restrict you from using lemmy by charging full Internet price for it, and allowing special free data plans for Facebook.

Net neutrality matters.

lispi314,
@lispi314@mastodon.top avatar

@ad_on_is The problem you're hitting is that the / in general weren't adequately designed to handle malicious operators.

"The 'net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it" was a comment about , a / system with gossiped (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip_protocol) message exchange which wasn't particularly picky about its transport layer (indeed you could load a spool on a floppy and mail it), not the internet.

Ilikecheese,

I don’t know if you’re choosing to add those hashtags to your comment or if it’s just something that mastodon does automatically, but holy fuckweasels is that shit annoying.

ninchuka,

I wondered why I saw people reply like that as well as tagging the user at the start, that explains it now

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

calyx true unlimited hotspot prob will fix

wildcardology,

Torrent sites aren’t blocked in my country but some pr0n sites are.

Alby003,
@Alby003@lemmings.world avatar

Use vpn

z00s,

Well you can buy a car but the gov’t will still make you drive on the correct side of the road.

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