Feeling like Privacy is a lost war.

So, I recently moved about 6 months ago. Have only given my real address and name to the DMV, Phone Company, Internet, and rental property(obviously knows my real address)

Ran Optery and found out that over 80 data brokers have my legit new address already.

Feeling like privacy is just some kind of wet dream at the moment. I do everything right, I think but no matter what the 4 companies I have given my information too will constantly sell my personal data no matter what.

It’s truly sad the direction America is going towards, all for some more money.

MrBubbles96,

If you’re fighting a one man war for privicy? Yeah, that’s pretty much a lost cause. (Also, the “all or nothing” approach will leave you with a bitter taste in your mouth. Pick your fights, and accept that you’ll never be able to keep all away from companies selling em, and that sometimes, sacrifices to your privacy have to be made. Complete removal shouldn’t be the goal when it’s just you going at it–it should be the reduction of what they get as much as feasibly possible without inconveniancing the user)

If you spread and bring that war to the collective? That’s where things are gonna change. Slowly, yeah, but they’ll change.

utopiah,

IMHO it’d be worthwhile to investigate which one actually did leak it without your consent. It might be pointless for your current address but surely would be for the next one, and everybody else.

More pragmatically even though it’s wrong I’m not sure how impactful it is. Namely you can receive spam regardless of where you live. What’s worrisome is arguably when companies know more about you, e.g tastes, political leaning, sexual orientation, etc. This is a lot more than a name on an address. I believe this is harder to get, especially if you are mindful of what you share. So… is it bad? Sure, is it lost? IMHO no.

beefpeach,

Yeah, I completely agree. I did this also right before I moved and found out my mental health records were being bought by data brokers.

I totally fell down a rabbit hole with that one. Basically, the 3rd-party software that hospitals and clinics use are subject to sell the data that gets imported into the software.

But, you’re definitely right. I’m pretty sure it’s my rental agency along with everybody else.

When, I first moved here with in the first week I received mail from a bunch of local dealers about my Hyundai which completely freaked me out that they all of a sudden knew what I drove as soon as I entered the state.

I’m not sure how data brokers actually work but they definitely operate like organized crime organizations.

drwho,

It’s only a matter of time before those records (and my mental health records too) get involved in a breach.

This does not leave me sleeping well at night.

DogMom,

The DMV and the post office(if you submitted am address change) are the most likely offenders.

BearOfaTime,

Your address is public information. Trying to hide that is pointless (well, it can be done, but is complex to do).

wowib56056,

Privacy is not just an illusion; it’s a delusion. Things like privacy statements and permission to use cookies are little more than sophisticated propaganda. If you think for a moment the Overlords cannot prepare a dossier on you within minutes that would make your mother faint and your father die of shame, you’re living in fantasy land. You have no idea how much data they store on individuals, and not just credit card purchases: tracking data, telephone conversations, text messages, anything you ever posted on the Internet. It’s a devouring machine. Get in their way, and you will find out how much they know about you. It has been this way for a very long time. This is nothing new. And yes, they really can turn on your cell phone camera and microphone at will without lights, so long as the battery is attached. And VPN? I laugh when I think about VPN. There is no cryptographic protocol used on the Internet, that the Overlords who brought all these technologies out in the first place, cannot decipher. None. The only way to live with this level of privacy evasion is to accept the reality of it. Stop thinking you are ever alone. Out in the middle of nowhere with no electronics on you? Maybe

metaStatic,

the internet wasn't made by overlords you utter twat.

it was made by hippies that thought we didn't need to lock our doors because everyone should live in harmony.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
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Lmao this “Overlords” guy again. How many fucking alts are you going to spin up to keep shitting out this over-simplistic drivel. This one is just 24 minutes old.

Like, do you really have nothing the fuck better to do with your life other than shit out some fearmongering about “Overlords?” The fact that you can’t name them by name but are using a dumbfuck “overlords/illuminati/what-the-fuck-ever” shows how simplistic this thought process you’re going through is.

MrBubbles96,

His comments were deleted (as I’m guessing his whole account), but I’m almost morbidly curious about whatever he was claiming to be the cause (I’m gonna wager it was “ThE ELiTe trying to subjegate the masses, man!” for $200?)

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And what do you bet his version of the elite trying to subjugate the masses is being told he can’t say ethnic slurs online.

MrBubbles96,

Oh, he’s one of those “muh freedoms to be a racist jackass are being censored!” types? I mean, from how you called him out in your comment, you seem to have had dealings with this guy (or his alts that I’m guessing were very short lived) in other threads, so I’ll take your word for it if that’s the case. Regardless, it wouldn’t surprise me either way if he was since again, to have to keep making alts to say his piece…

Kir,

Privacy is a collective “war”, it’s not something that can be fought on individual level. You can adopt some precaution on a personal level, and try to do better, but it’s something that must be brought to a collective level.

Same as climate change policy and worker right.

beefpeach,

It’s a collective war that I also feel is lost. Especially, when there is little to no policies in effect to stop these data brokers. Unless you live in California.

Kir,

I live in Europe, and I feel the battle is still on (but very very difficult)

troglodytis,

Not to worry, climate change will bring back privacy

drwho,

Even then, not so much. I’ve been tugging on those particular wires, and the overall response seems to be, send a reply once, then ghost you until you’ve forgotten that you asked them. They do nothing during that time, and will probably continue to do nothing well after we forget.

pdxfed,

I “live” in California to every company that I do business there that also operates in CA…

roteradler,

We have policies on Europe but even they do not help. The ad business is completely out of control, on some sites there are over 200 as companies gathering your data and selling them through the real time bidding system. it’s impossible to know who bought the data. just have a look what’s been uncovered lately.

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