root,

I would offer a suggestion “it’s not that I have nothing to hide; it’s that i have nothing i want you or anyone else to see”.

Both may sound similar but in reality quite diffierent.

cheese_greater,

Nunya business. You didn’t pay or labor to collect it nor do you pay maintenance costs. Nacho dime/time, nacho business

Synthead, (edited )

Saying you don’t need privacy because you have nothing to hide is the same as saying you don’t need freedom of speech because you have nothing to say

cheese_greater,

How is Snowden so damn eloquent? He puts everything and anything I ever left here to shame

TheFriar, (edited )

Because dude was a genius prodigy. Smart people talk the best words.

cheese_greater,

He definitely, genuinely has the best words

scarilog,

His book was a super great read.

cheese_greater, (edited )

I need to listen to it someday. Im kinda scared to take that pilly-of-a-reality-pill

01189998819991197253,
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What’s the title?

scarilog,

Permanent Record

mjhelto,

“Snowed In”

01189998819991197253,
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Cute title. I’ll see if I can find it. Thanks!

scarilog,

It’s called Permanent Record haha this dude is trolling you

01189998819991197253,
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Lol you gotta admit, though. That would have been an awesome title.

parpol,

Tell them that they don’t deserve free speech either because obviously nothing of quality comes out of their mouth.

Extrasvhx9he,

I usually ask them for their phone

originalfrozenbanana,

That’s a choice they can make for themselves, not a choice tech companies and governments should make for everyone. If they want to trade their privacy, and I don’t - fine. All I want is the power to choose and know that choice will be respected.

cheese_greater,

I love the selfish/enmeshed subtle agenda to that. I will decide and since I believe I’m covered, I required everyone to be compelled into the same dragnet I bless with my consensual presence. We may all be fish but there’s oxygen in heaven/the sky

LWD, (edited )

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  • originalfrozenbanana,

    If they’re not arguing in good faith my advice is don’t argue. Don’t roll around with pigs - you just get covered in shit and the pigs like it.

    Pons_Aelius,

    Some variation of the below:

    Can I have your phone with the messaging apps unlocked?

    Can I log into your personal email?

    Can I see your tax returns?

    Can I set up cameras and microphones in your house?

    Can I place a GPS tracker on your car?

    otter,

    It also works with opening up the info to anyone, not just you. That’s one of the key issues, even if a trusted party is accessing the info there’s a chance that a malicious party can get access too. Or the trusted party becomes malicious later (government changes, company changes hands, etc.)

    People generally don’t want everything in their home live streamed 24/7. If anything it has the potential for abuse, like if someone knows when you’ll be out of home for a few hours

    AI_toothbrush,

    Insurance companies in some countries give you a discount if you agree to put a tracker on your car…

    anguo,

    Or use their app on your phone, which will “detect your driving patterns” and adjust your rates accordingly.

    But honestly, even without all that, modern cars already have trackers and Internet connections even without your knowledge. (Mine did a couple of impromptu OTA updates for the media center at the beginning. It also has an SOS button on the roof, which you need to be subscribed to use, but can activate the subscription through the button. This implies there is a GPS tracker, as well as a cellular connection).

    navi,

    Medical privacy is a great example.

    Consider a situation like Texas right now where abortion went from a normal, legal thing to something that you can be fined and jailed for.

    Would such a person be OK with the state having access to their medical records so they could jail or fine them?

    People need to understand that much of privacy precautions are “layers” of security against “what if” scenarios that can sometimes be very real.

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