chicken,

I thought they cancelled manifest v3 after the backlash?

Croquette,

They never do. They wait for the backlash to be over, change a few things and try it again.

sweet,

I wish firefox would just add tab-groups back like chrome has or literally any chrome based browser… Ive tried literally every tab extension in the store and w/e I could find on Github but they all aren’t to my liking. They basically all use a side bar. I just want to slide my 100 tabs of manga and obscure programming blogs out of sight lol other than that, firefox is pretty much better in most ways.

grandel,

Simple Tab Groups

swordsmanluke,

Have you tried one of the panorama plugins? It’s not quite the same but it works for me.

Aria,

Maybe I’m being stupid but doesn’t Firefox have tab-groups? https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/42c5a63b-8cb7-42cb-9106-1ca91c170edb.png

LWD,

Different use case. Those are containers, which have a similar color… But in Chrome, everything is in one container, the colored tabs are just grouped together and those groups can be collapsed to save horizontal space in the tab bar.

Anon518,

This is still working medium.com/…/the-story-of-sync-tab-groups-the-web… if you can find a place to download it.

stratosfear,

Windows group tabs. Just open a new window for each task of tabs.

ArcaneSlime,

Be really cool if they’d at least add it to their mobile browser though.

Mindful,

Does Firefox multi-account-containers work for you? Not on a desktop atm. but maybe you still need to have separate windows for that…

Anyways I’d still highly recommended the extension!

LWD,

Sidebery does a pretty good job of managing tab groups from a sidebar, although it’s much less ad-hoc

Gooey0210,

We will kill chrome

darkstar,

I doubt it. Normies love chrome, and the majority of normies don’t even know about ad blockers. Chrome will continue unfortunately

Gooey0210,

Are you using chrome? 🫤

darkstar,

Nope, I use Firefox

Obi,
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Anyone remembers when Chrome was the hot new kid on the block and we all converted the “normies” to it because it was so much better than IE? We’re reaping what we sowed.

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

I still carry so much shame for this.

darkstar,

This is so true. I feel personally responsible

Zerush, (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

No problems with the inbuild adblocker in Vivaldi, not even in YouTube (without any ads for me), problems only for Chromiums in which are remaining control and tracking APIs from Google and which are only can use “descaffeinated” Adblockers from the Chrome Store. I can use even direct userscripts in Vivaldi if needed, without the need of Tamper-, Greasy- or Violentmonkey extensions. Vivaldi is a Chromium browser, but Google for the past 9 years has hit its teeth on a rock in attempts to control it.

cashews_best_nut, (edited )

I was a Vivaldi user, like you, until I used Floorp and now I’m a crack addict.

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Floorp is a nice Browser. Apart of Vivaldi, I use also the Mullvad Browser and the SSuite Netsurf for some tasks, before I also had the Midory Browser (almost identical to Floorp) and almost all others which are exist or existed in the past. But Vivaldi remain my main browser since 8 years.

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Good think I don’t use chrome.

mathiouchio,

Great minds thing alike.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

get firefox and ublock origin.

its so fucking simple, why do people have such weird attachment to chrome??

Concave1142,

We are in the middle of rolling out a new SaaS solution at work that just works better in Edge. The amount of outrageous levels of anger and disgust we get from telling them to use Edge is stupid. Even telling users it is built on Chromium, just like Chrome, does nothing to dissuade their unfounded anger.

With some people it actually comes down to telling them, “if you don’t use Edge, then I guess you need to start looking for another job that only uses Chrome”.

I just don’t get it.

cm0002,

Edge can go fucking die, MS has lost all trust with me when it comes to them and Internet Browsers, I rip edge out of all my systems no matter what it might “break”.

Maybe you should deploy solutions that are browser agnostic. That kind of shit is how we ended up with IE and its proprietary BS like ActiveX years ago. Clearly, people are forgetting history

meat_popsicle,

lol like management gives two shits about how browser agnostic a product is. business solutions look to address the perceived gap or need, not tailor to IT personnel feelings.

cm0002,

That’s easy, just find [Some important person] who can’t live without [Chrome/Firefox/Whatever] and bring them to your side lmao

Either way, it didn’t sound like he was saying “I tried to push for better, but management shut me down” it sounded like he was happy to move to edge and “couldn’t understand why people were angry”

Heavybell,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

For better and worse, most people don’t care what’s under the hood. They care about the surface features. I.e. Chrome already has their bookmarks, the buttons are all in the same place, etc.

You and I know there’s little difference but end users don’t want to change, even if it’s to something that would benefit them in the long run (i.e. Firefox)

lemmyreader,

Agreed on using Firefox/LibreWolf and uBlock Origin, I love that combination. I think the thing is that Google Chrome is much faster than Firefox on Android phones (I don’t mind, I hardly ever use mobile to browse), and long time habits can be hard to break for some people.

ziixe,
@ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yup, can say that firefox is quite a bit slower on android (but honestly it’s still quite ok, unless it decides to loop loading the page, or it bugs out in another way, at least on my phone it’s quite prone to breaking, for comparison brave is really a bit faster than Firefox

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, it IS slower on android, but adblocking more than makes up for it IMO.

ziixe,
@ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Also not only that, but the ability to let me choose if I want to open a link in an app or not, happens countless times with stuff like GitHub automatically wanting to redirect to the app (which sucks)

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

oh there was a bug a few versions back that did this, but it seems they fixed it now

jmp242,

Not so much chrome, but many browsers (like my favorite Vivaldi) are chromium based. I wish they’d just keep uBlock going in the chromium rebuilds, but IDK if that’s possible. Seems like it should be to me though.

Also, we switched at work from Firefox because somehow they broke system level updates a few years ago, and nothing I could do was able to figure out why their installer stopped working without first having someone run the uninstall graphically to update to the new version. It would just say Firefox wasn’t a valid windows exe till I manually removed it. And even the Mozilla Enterprise list seemed flummoxed. Honestly, I think they should have reverted the installer change, or even just use a standard installer that doesn’t have this problem, but hey.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

This is precisely why I’ve never found Chromium based browsers to be of much relevance. These are just skins on top of the rendering engine which is the core of the browser and that’s entirely controlled by Google. People kept ignoring this and now we’re in a situation where Chrome and its derivatives dominate the market to the point where sites no longer care whether they follow W3C specs as long as Chrome renders them. We’re now back in pretty much the same situation we were in the days of IE.

It’s depressing that people were unable to understand where things were going until Google started doing blatantly evil things. The only thing that was keeping Google in check before was the fact that it was lack of market dominance. Google is an ads company, and there is a huge conflict of interest with them being the gatekeepers to the internet.

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I’m interested but I’m not watching 30 minutes of video…

squid_slime,
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

And google will kill its self

Zerush, (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

I think the same, obviously Google don’t know the Cobra Effect

LufyCZ,

Nah, they know what they’re doing.

squid_slime,
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

Wishful thinking on my part tbh, I forget that there is an ecosystem with gmail :/

PrivateNoob,

Yeah and it’s kinda hard to get off from that. I’m in the process of switching my 2 gmail accounts to 2 proton ones and it seems that the ProtonMail app’s free plan doesn’t support multiple emails. Understandable but sad.

Vinny_93,

Who uses chrome anyway even there’s vivaldi

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

why are people that allergic to firefox?

vivaldi is chrome with extra steps

jmp242,

Mostly because the browsing experience IMO is much much worse with Firefox. I tried extensions to get functionality back, it made it worse - slower, buggy, extensions would stop being developed etc. I wish Firefox was better, I really do. But IME it’s frozen functionality like it’s 2010 or so. Like, they have tabs, who hoo. I really find save/restore, multi window control, tab stacks, sessions, workspaces, and easy UI config pretty important in day to day use. That said, I also think ads are a deal breaker, but I really wonder if this won’t bring back some of the ad-blocking proxies you run locally or something.

Or, someone forks chromium to keep Manifest v2 or whatever.

floofloof,

I use both Firefox and Chrome-based browsers and I haven’t come across any major differences in functionality. What are all these things Chrome can do that Firefox can’t?

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

those are all things that don’t exist on most browsers without many extensions

floofloof,

Choose a Firefox-based browser instead for open source.

Cheradenine, (edited )

To paraphrase ’ a Chrome by any other name would smell as sweet’

ghostface,

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