Cops Used DNA to Predict a Suspect’s Face—and Tried to Run Facial Recognition on It

For facial recognition experts and privacy advocates, the East Bay detective’s request, while dystopian, was also entirely predictable. It emphasizes the ways that, without oversight, law enforcement is able to mix and match technologies in unintended ways, using untested algorithms to single out suspects based on unknowable criteria.

davel,
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Next thing you know this will be the new expert witness pseudoscience.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
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Beat me to the punch, I was saying just as much, considering the history of forensic science in general. It won’t be long before they’re producing bogus “research” to justify it at a new investigative method.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
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Cops only like technology when they can abuse it to avoid having to do real investigative police work.

They don’t care to understand the technology in any deep manner, and as we’ve seen with body cams, when they retain full control over the technology, it’s basically a farce to believe it could be used to control their behavior.

I mean, on top of that, a lot of “forensic science” isn’t science at all and is arguably a joke.

Cops like using the veneer of science and technology to act like they’re doing “serious jobs” but in reality they’re just a bunch of thugs trying to dominate and control.

In other words, this is just the beginning, don’t expect them to stop doing stuff like this, and further, expect them to start producing “research” that “justifies” these “investigation” methods and see them added to the pile of bullshit that is “fOrEnSiC sCiEnCE.”

FishLake,

After the murder of Michael Brown, body cams were lauded by centrists as a way to prevent police from unlawfully killing people. And there’s never been a single police shoo- oh wait

ThePantser,
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I can see the abuse but what if this actually worked in a best case scenario? So dna is found say from a rape and that DNA is used to create a image of the person and then they find that person and then do DNA tests to match them. The image is not used as evidence but used to find the person. Honestly it seems like a good use, if it’s limited to that.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
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Dude facial recognition catches the wrong people all the time. It is not as infallible as they make it out to be and this is just adding an entire extra level of mistakes they can make.

Facial recognition tech is bogus and because of its technical limitations, unintentionally(?) racist. (ie the cameras are not designed well to take good photo/video of dark skin, leading to high false positive rates when it comes to dark-skinned people) edit: even further, the cameras are often too small of a resolution for quality matching.

Further, facial reconstruction based on DNA isn’t exactly super accurate on its own.

Please don’t fall for this bullshit.

Vanth,
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Pardon the YT link, I haven’t dove into peertube yet. Here’s a very timely case where a man was misidentified by facial recognition, imprisoned, where he was sexually assaulted.

youtu.be/Oe9xGX7lKZc?si=hppJaktpo82F5eD

And that’s just one specious technology, add in the very immature process of trying to guess what people look like based on DNA and it gets a big “No Thanks” from me. I don’t trust cops to put reasonable guardrails in place when their incentive structure is driving them to put people in prison as quickly and inexpensively as possible.

i_love_FFT,
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I don’t know a lot about DNA, but i know about facial recognition.

Facial recognition is highly inaccurate. It would be easy for people from the same country to “match” at facial recognition despite being totally unrelated.

If “face generation from DNA” is only roughly accurate (ex: nose size or skin tone), then anybody from the same ethnic origin could be a match. Basically, the more you look like the “average person”, the more likely you would fit the generated face.

Doesn’t it sound a lot like technology-enabled profiling?

shiveyarbles,

This stuff scares me.with all the sneaky ass companies hoarding DNA, it becomes too easy to frame someone. This kind of shit doesn’t help either.

BeatTakeshi,
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… And found out that the minority report predicted he was about to commit a crime.

Zerush,
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First Tests in Alabama?

iAvicenna,
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wow nice to know that from DNA you can predict whether or not a person has a beard, or their style of hair

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