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spudwart, in AI facial recognition scanned millions of driver licences. Then an innocent man got locked up
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The System is functioning as Intended.

Voli, in AI facial recognition scanned millions of driver licences. Then an innocent man got locked up

I wish the term Ai would be stopped, because these devices are far from the idea of what ai is.

NightOwl,

Yeah, things that weren’t called AI years back are just getting called AI now.

Gurfaild,

“AI” was always an imprecise term - even compilers used to be called AI once

psivchaz,

I always thought machine learning was descriptive and made sense. I guess it just didn’t get investors erect enough.

Phanatik,

It's almost like the incessant marketing of standard optimisation algorithms as artificial intelligence has diluted the tech industry with meaningless buzzwords.

Floey,

AI has been used to refer to all kinds of dynamic programming in the history of computation. Algebraic solvers, edge detection, fuzzy decision systems, player programs for video games and tabletop games. So when you say AI is this or that you are being rather prescriptivist about it.

The problem with AI and ML is more one of it being presented to the public by grifters as a magical one stop solution to almost any problem. What term was used hardly matters, it was the propaganda that carried the term. It would be like saying the name Nike is the reason for the shoe brand’s success and not it’s marketing.

So discredit the grifters, and if you want to destroy the term then look to dilute it by using it to describe even more things. It was never really a useful term to begin with. I’ll leave you with this quote

A lot of cutting edge AI has filtered into general applications, often without being called AI because once something becomes useful enough and common enough it’s not labelled AI anymore.

rockSlayer, in AI facial recognition scanned millions of driver licences. Then an innocent man got locked up

AI shouldn’t be anywhere near law enforcement. Including automated patrol software.

EatYouWell,

It’s not AI, though. They’re just using buzzwords, because what they described is functionally no different from AFIS. It’s just a poorly written algorithm.

rockSlayer,

I’m aware, but unfortunately I’m not big enough in the tech industry to create differentiating terms. AI is an extremely broad term ranging from literal if-else statements to LLMs and generative AI. Unfortunately the specifics usually get buried in the term

MindSkipperBro12,

Don’t be scared of the inevitable

uriel238, in AI facial recognition scanned millions of driver licences. Then an innocent man got locked up
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Ever since we let law enforcement use facial recognition technology, they’ve been arresting people for false positives, sometimes for long periods of time.

it’s not just camera problems and being poorly trained regarding non-whites, but that people actually look too much alike, especially when using the tech on blurry low-res security footage,

echodot,

I used to work in security camera monitoring and I used to think I don’t understand why insurers will touch some of these companies with an electrified cattle prod.

They will be pretty high value asset companies with valuable stuff on premises that could be stolen, construction equipment, medical equipment, guns, cars, steel copper lead etc. and their security cameras would max out at 720p have a giant spider web on them without fail and would invariably be on some wobbly pole somewhere that was blowing around in the wind causing 300 false positives a minute. We literally used to switch those cameras off.

Why don’t they insist on equipment that didn’t cost the company $4.50 from Walmart?

The only cameras we used to work with that were actually any good were the number plate recognition cameras, but they were specialist and were absolutely useless for anything else other than number plate recognition. But boy did they get you that number plate.

catsup, in AI facial recognition scanned millions of driver licences. Then an innocent man got locked up

TLDR:

In 2018, a man in a baseball cap stole thousands of dollars worth of watches from a store in central Detroit.

The AI was trained on a database of mostly white people The photos of people of colour in the dataset were generally of worse quality, as default camera settings are often not optimised to capture darker skin tones.

Mr Williams’ photo didn’t come up first. In fact, it was the ninth-most-probable match.

Regardless…

Officers drove to Mr Williams’ house and handcuffed him.

They arrested him in front of his five and two-year-old kids…


Ai with bad training data + lazy cops who didn’t learn how to use the tools they were given = this mess

chicken,

Sounds like the same old law enforcement trend; technology deployed as an excuse generator.

disconnectikacio, in Google abandons “Web Environment Integrity”

Disgusting piece of craps! All should continue to open eyes, against google. They wont stop!

Spread the word to install firefox based browser, use different frontends to block youtube ads in browser, Invidious and use piped youtube apps on android to block youtbe ads: Newpipe

intrepid,

While I agree with that sentiment, I really wish people use something other than YouTube. I wish peertube or even paid platforms like nebula take off.

corroded, in ‘People have no idea’: How smart devices spy on us and reveal information about our homes

The best solution IMO is don’t let your smart devices have access to the internet. Put them on a VLAN, block them at the firewall, whatever method you prefer. Accessing your home network remotely is one thing, but your air conditioner doesn’t need to INITIATE a connection to the outside world.

mypasswordis1234,
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That’s what I did 🙃 Unfortunately, some devices do not work at all without a connection to the manufacturer’s cloud, this also needs to be taken into account.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Used this tool just yesterday to stop some bulbs I got at Costco connecting to the cloud.

github.com/tuya-cloudcutter/tuya-cloudcutter

Infiltrated_ad8271,
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

Having to hack even bulbs to avoid being spied on is a new level in dystopia.

mypasswordis1234,
@mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

I have flashed all the bulbs and ceiling lights in my house and they work locally on FOSS firmware now 😉 It is not a big deal. I have very poor soldering skills, and I did this anyway.

princessnorah,
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Oh, I could make it worse if you’d like? That tool isn’t made for just the bulbs I got at Costco, it’s made for any device in the Tuya ecosystem. What’s Tuya? They’re a Chinese white-label manufacturer that makes smart devices that other companies can slap their brand on. They’ll throw you together an app too, but all of the API calls go through their infrastructure. Bonus, they also make security cameras that send footage to their servers, and smart locks too. They’re literally everywhere, but I’m in Australia so that’s where I’m basing this list:

  • Mirabella Genio
  • Tapo
  • Laser (Big W)
  • Anko (Kmart)
  • Feit Electric (Costco)
  • Grid Connect (Bunnings)
  • EKO (only makes security cameras)
  • Kogan SmarterHome
  • BrilliantSmart (Brilliant Lighting)

And that is, quite literally, only to name a few.

yoz,

Thanks mate.Moving forward I am Not going to buy anything “smart”

princessnorah,
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I mean, there are still plenty of ways to have smart things that don’t communicate with the internet. Ikea’s stuff is all zigbee, they don’t have wifi at all. You can get one of their hubs to control from your phone, or they sell remotes with zigbee you can pair directly to control a set of bulbs. They never have to see internet at all.

Diamond_AaronXG,
@Diamond_AaronXG@mstdn.party avatar

@princessnorah @yoz rlly??? I might have to look into this!

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah. As well, if you want to upgrade to a Home Assistant setup down the line, all you need is a $50 Zigbee USB adapter. If you’re more tech-savvy then you can also buy bulbs from somewhere like www.athom.tech that come pre-flashed with open source firmware. Either ESPHome, Tasmota or WLED are available. These are wifi, but everything is local, and you can block them on your router without issues. ESPHome is what I have running on the bulbs I rescued.

Diamond_AaronXG,
@Diamond_AaronXG@mstdn.party avatar

@princessnorah that’s awesome! When I move out imma buy all this lmao

Fly4aShyGuy,
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Good link for that site. Currently shopping bulbs for my just recently arrived home assistant green and hard to find consistent information on best bulbs to be using. Love that these are flashed with open source already but I think due to the amount of bulbs I need and their location I’ll be better suited with Zigbee. Will definitely check this place for future devices as I build out the system.

princessnorah,
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Are you new with Home Assistant in general? I’ve got it running in a VM on a rack server, but those HA Green’s sure do look like a tidy little bit of kit. Ikea stuff works well with it Zigbee-wise, I’ve got some of it around. You can get their remotes working via HA to control other things too. Here’s the Blueprint I used: github.com/…/zha_ikea_tradfri_5button_remote_cust…

Fly4aShyGuy,
@Fly4aShyGuy@lemmy.one avatar

Thanks for the info! I am somewhat new to HA, my only experience with it was temporarily checking it out on a VM on my windows Plex server but at that time didn’t have my own place was just checking it our for the eventual move. I think I’m going to add Sky Connect for Zigbee and eventually Matter/Thread devices.

princessnorah,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The newer version of Ikea’s Tradfri bulbs (they aren’t selling the old ones anymore) have thread/ matter support on the chips. They should be getting a firmware update soon to enable it. You can also check out the Integrations section on Home Assistant to find devices/brands that are private and work well. The Shelly integration is rated Platinum, and has Local Push: www.home-assistant.io/integrations/shelly/

Edit: Also, feel free to hit me up here or on Matrix (link in my profile) if you have any questions or just wanna chat about HA or other self-hosted stuff 😊

Monument,

A long while ago, my first foray into smart home stuff was a Phillips Hue system. I used to use it exclusively offline, but I got deeper into smart home stuff and wanted to add some integration into my system. I don’t remember what anymore, but it meant setting up a Hue developer account, so I signed up. Gave them my email address. Stopped using the integration, moved, reset the hub, used it offline for years.

This February I logged into the hub for some reason. I think an accessory wasn’t working and Hue user docs said to log in or some such nonsense.

Five days ago, I got an email from Amazon. They told me that one of the batteries in a Hue switch was running low, and they helpfully provided me with a link to buy new ones. Their page for the device indicated that they were being updated with its battery percentage every 4-8 hours - and that I had authorized Alexa access to my Hue system in February.
I checked the Hue app, and it indicated no apps or services connected to my account.
Logged into the Hue website, dug into my settings, and there were a dozen app’s and services that had been “authorized” to access my account - none that showed up in the app.

Every smart device that has been on my network - devices that I never integrated with Hue (on purpose!) were all happily showing very recent access times to my data. Systems I don’t have accounts to anymore. I revoked access, of course.

Three days ago Amazon emailed me to let me know a different device needed a battery, and showed that Hue had shared the battery level of the device with them that day - 2 days after I revoked access.

Yeah… all their products are getting trashed, reflashed, or used with zigbee hubs I’ve built.

aniki,

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  • corroded,

    You should never fully trust ANY device on your network. Even if it’s not collecting your personal information and sending it off to who-knows-where, there could always be a zero-day exploit just waiting for someone to find it.

    aniki,

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  • corroded,

    You’re correct about an outside individual accessing your network, but that still doesn’t prevent a device on your network from phoning home.

    I think most people have at least some open ports, though. Isn’t port forwarding required for a lot of online games? It used to be at least.

    deweydecibel, in Google abandons “Web Environment Integrity”

    Great news, but horribly written article. Feels like AI or someone with a high school writing level.

    The original source is much better

    theregister.com/…/google_abandons_web_environment…

    gravitas_deficiency,

    I mean it probably was written with AI.

    SummerBreeze,

    It is not written with AI

    smokingManhole,
    @smokingManhole@lemmy.world avatar

    AI writes better than that.

    SummerBreeze,

    I’m sorry to hear you did not like the writing

    SummerBreeze,

    The main difference between the register article and this one is the register is optimistic that Google will stop. While as the comments in this chat clearly indicate alternative views.

    ebits21, in Google abandons “Web Environment Integrity”
    @ebits21@lemmy.ca avatar

    GOOD.

    Eccitaze, in Is there any point in using NoScript if you already have uBlock Origin?
    @Eccitaze@yiffit.net avatar

    I keep NoScript around because there’s been a few times where I clicked a bad link and NoScript blocking JS by default has saved my bacon. Plus, a lot of services like twitch serve ads through separate domains that I can block from running entirely with NoScript–the entire time people were complaining about Twitch trying to bypass adblockers, I never once saw a single ad.

    LinkOpensChest_wav, in What's an easy way to remove metadata from a .mp4 file? [Windows 10]

    I figured out I can send it to myself on Molly, and the metadata will be automatically removed, but surely there’s a better way to do this very basic thing?

    Later, I’ll have access to my laptop that runs Linux, so I’ll see if it works there to do it in a more civilized manner.

    pythia, in Is there any point in using NoScript if you already have uBlock Origin?

    have you tried umatrix instead of noscript?

    Blizzard, in Google abandons “Web Environment Integrity”

    I don’t believe them. They will try to do it again, slightly modified, under a different name, but they WILL try to introduce it again.

    gravitas_deficiency,

    And for round 2 they’ll try to be sneakier about it

    intrepid,

    No. That’s round 3. Round 2 is already announced - they are ‘restricting’ environment integrity to multimedia on Android webview. Of course, what they don’t say is that the feature is going to be developed and tested outside the view of the general public - since this doesn’t need to go through a public standardization like web specifications. Once they get that perfected, they will silently expand its scope outside webview and gradually into browsers with a new name. That’s round 3.

    BlackPit, in Google abandons “Web Environment Integrity”

    Taking the win. Celebrating the fact there was a big enough backlash to get Google to pull their head in.

    Facebones,

    I switched back to Firefox and un-installed any chromium browsers at the news.

    I will now be talking all credit for affecting this change and sharing it with nobody else. You’re welcome, internet! 🙏

    errer,

    I did the same thing you did. I’m sure the numbers were modest but Google must have noticed the trend…

    runswithjedi,

    Same, we did it!

    Darorad,

    Thank you for your hard work

    CowsLookLikeMaps,

    Unironically, thank you.

    b9chomps, in Is there any point in using NoScript if you already have uBlock Origin?
    @b9chomps@beehaw.org avatar

    Arkenfox has some info on common extension and their use in their Wiki

    Especially the “Don’t bother” section is interesting and can slim down your used extensions considerably.

    smeg,

    This is worth being a post on it’s own, very useful

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