Recently had some people tell me that connect isn’t collapsing cross-posts so when a post is posted to multiple communities at the same time it floods the feed...
yeah ill probably have to make an issue on all of their repositories
its pretty much only supported by the main instance web frontends (lemmy-ui and pangora-ui) (been supported on lemmy-ui since before all of the apps were made)
currently recommended in programming.dev to cross post to as many communities as you can to give content to the lower activity communities and since there tends to be a lot of overlap with topics but thats conflicting with current app behaviours
Yup exactly I agree with this. I think people are entitled to an opinion and that includes tankies. But the way alot of “lemmings” go about discussing there views and opinions is worse than reddit in my opinion for an instance there’s alot of folk assholes in my opinion raiding Christian communities downvoiting them and commenting on them I’m not Christian myself but I personally see this as despicable behavior. Especially considering there people consider themselves to be the “tolerant” one’s
I don’t know how I forgot about the sorting options, that stills limits me to the communities that have been connected to my instance right? I saw somewhere that each instance only syncs the communities the users from that instance have followed or something of the style
I kind of regret making my account so early on the mainline instance, rather than on mander, beehaws, or elsewhere, but I still manage to stay relatively far away from the madness by just keeping subscribed to the right communities.
I don’t get it either. And it’s like they weren’t paying any attention to anything said or who was commenting at all. Oh well. I tried to be patient but they just kept going and earned a community ban. And then kept going and got a 7 day instance ban. And then kept going and now they are permabanned. A total shit fit is right!
Please understandnim asking this question from a genuine place. I dont want the quora answer, i want the tech savvy, security expert minds of my fellow lemmings. If thats ok?...
There’s no one-liner that will make the importance of privacy “click” for most people, since it requires a bit of abstract thought, but this site is the closest I’ve seen to it: www.socialcooling.com
If you want to do something about it, check out privacyguides.org, or the lemmy community (and instance) run by its owner, !privacyguides
I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me....
most wouldn’t want to pay for hosting when they can use Facebook for “free”.
Unless they get something they won’t find on facebook -> freedom.
I think your idea about everybody basically becoming their own instance is not as bad as it sounds. If social media was peer to peer, using bittorrent technology somehow the hosting issue might somehow be resolved.
That would still leave open the issue of self-governance: how would you genuinely determine the community wishes on any given subject? some may sabotage, others may use bots, other again may try to be disruptive and others may abuse other users or the community.
Cool. then create you own lemmy instance and run it the way you want.
that is the point I don’t want it to run how “I” want but it should be ran however the community as a whole wants it to.
I think you are misunderstanding my question.
This is not a social issue but a technical one.
If you have votes, they can be trivially rigged by somebody creating a number of sock puppet accounts. If anybody can just do how they please, unsavory characters will flood the site with aweful content. If you require ID or a phone number (those can both be faked) then you just introduce a whole other set of issues, by basically doxing everybody to the people who run the site, and by extension the powers that be.
I feel this problem requires cryptography of some sort and the ability to establish identity for users without de-anonymizing them. idk if that makes sense to you
It may be easier to type and say (as are most words in comparison), but "antidisestablishmentarianism" has a well-defined meaning that would make for a less-vague rule. "Bootlicking" means a lot of different things to a lot of people, and not all of those people have common sense, to put it nicely. I've been called a bootlicker for saying I don't want to tear down the entirety of every government everywhere, ever, for instance, which I imagine isn't what that rule is trying to convey.
There's a reason "legalese" is the language laws are written in. It's very specific, with any potentially ambiguous words given clear definitions before any of the rest of the law is presented (at least that's the intent in the US, anyway). If you were to, say, define "bootlicker" in the beginning of the rules to mean "excessive praise for police violence," then I'd say it's quite safe to use elsewhere in said document. Leaving such a vague word undefined in what amounts to a paralegal document opens up avenues for abusive interpretation, both from moderators and community members.
TL;DR: Clear definitions of what your rules mean leads to a healthier, easier to moderate community overall.
I really, really suspect that the big Lemmy instances are being run by Reddit admins or spooks or some-such. They’re moderating their instances in the exact same way Reddit did minus the profiteering. The censorship is the exact same.
It’s just the reality of online content moderation. The good mods/admins are people who are passionate about a topic and want to provide a space for discussion and community building. When it comes to the “power mods” or whatever, like those we saw on reddit who moderated 100+ subs, they’re just in it to stroke their own egos.
It might be another community. Maybe one of the 196 (as in that’s their name but there are several on different instances)? But why not make it a thing here too?
That doesn’t work, though. If I add posts and comments to, let’s say, a Brazilian Jiu-jitsu community on Lemmy, that’s just one more number. That isn’t going to improve.
Reddit had a huge boost from Digg, and even then, it was a different time when fewer numbers were fine, and people were more willing to engage in social media at lower numbers.
If Lemmy instances are to grow, that engagement needs to be directed. It needs popular communities to be highlighted, and once consistent interaction is there, growing communities need instance owners to direct traffic/engagement their way. That’s how subs like /r/soccer got off the ground, and it’s probably the only way it’ll happen on Lemmy.
It’s the cost of federation with instances that try to be giant general-purpose instances (.world and .ee, mostly): just constant shitty takes that overwhelm participants in the conversation. Federation works far better with lots of small purpose-driven instances instead of gigantic ones; my small (<1000 users) specific community-focused Mastodon instance sees absolutely nothing like this and is full of people who intentionally engage in good-faith conversation with the rest of the community while every large instance I’ve seen has the same issues as centralized social media in that regard.
But users can moderate communities on instances other than their own. So it’s common for a user to create an account on another instance just to create a community, then add their main as a moderator just for convenience. So it’s not a show stopper if OP wants to keep using this account.
To be totally honest I didn’t look through everything you posted, but I’ve toyed with the idea of intranets myself and have come up with a handful of tools I really like.
Tailscale can be used when there is a necessity to connect remote locations over “The Internet”. It is a private VPN that provides ip addresses for connected devices that are only usable to other devices within your Tailnet
Syncthing can be spun up very quickly to distribute and sync files across devices on the local network, within your Tailnet, and yes over “The Internet” if need be. This is not full on web server level of hosting, but it can get some things off the ground quickly.
The way I’ve used this to make an “Intranet” is outlined here. I use Obsidian for a lot of note taking, link storage, and general information gathering and navigating. Obsidian stores all it’s files as plain text in a normal folder structure, but this could also be done with htlm files and a normal browser. I can target any portion of these folders with Syncthing and keep them updated across all my devices through my Tailnet. The broader usage of this begins to get into the idea of an intranet.
Let’s say I meet someone within this community, or maybe from one of the other locations. We get to talking and decide to exchange information from our respective collections. I fire up an ad hoc WiFi network off of say my phone, or a small portable router, add them to my Tailnet, which could even be optional given Syncthing’s built in encryption, add their devices Syncthing ID to the folder I want to share with them. They download a local copy of whatever data I want, and then can return to a hub of their own, maybe a home network, or a larger community wide network. Target the new data they have acquired, and sync it to the hub. We could then remove each other from our Tailnets and Syncthing instances, or leave them so we can automatically update differences when in proximity.
That’s a rough idea of how I think this system could be used for a more “personal” internet. One that focuses more on direct and intentional communication and data storage, where each user or group of users is basically selecting which data they value enough to commit drive space to. I have also researched medium and long range “WiFi” networks using radio or other signals to trickle sync nodes over longer distances. I’ve even been inspired by Factorio’s logistic drone networks and thought to attach portable routers, single board computers, and storage drives to drones or even solar gliders that can trickle sync to nodes they pass over.
Just some ideas that don’t quite fit the different systems you mentioned, but I think are a bit easier to spin up for individual users, and could decentralize the load of what you are trying to do even more. Could maybe post this in some of the other FOSS/networking/linux/privacy communities, but I’d maybe clean up the post a bit and make it clearer what you are after.
Censorship is absolutely rampant on Lemmy. I don’t post particularly controversial stuff, but I am an active commenter and I’ve noticed that mods will just wipe my comments or those of others on a whim. I think this is a huge issue and one of the biggest downsides about switching from reddit. I very rarely had comments...
The only thing I can think of is to somehow subscribe to the modlog. That will have the entire thing.
As for moderation, you aren’t dealing with a huge corporation, you’re dealing with individuals who choose to host their own server and have their own ideas for how it should run. If you don’t like it, the true freedom is that you can start your own instance and communities. But you need to put in the work to convince people to switch.
Welcome! I’d recommend subscribing to !communitypromo, to see recommendations over time.
We also have a guide for finding new communities here: lemmy.ca/post/5581032, which I’ve copied below for you.
A great way to find lesser known communities is to look at the /communities page on an instance. For example: lemmy.ca/communities
For a list of instances to look through:
pangora.social (NEW): Great way to find instances related to a particular topic. This is also great for picking an instance when first making an account/moving accounts.
Lemmy is a selfhosted, federated social link aggregation and discussion forum. It consists of many different communities which are focused on different topics. Users can post text, links or images and discuss it with others. Voting helps to bring the most interesting items to the top. There are strong moderation tools to keep out spam and trolls. All this is completely free and open, not controlled by any company. This means that there is no advertising, tracking, or secret algorithms.
Federation is a form of decentralization. Instead of a single central service that everyone uses, there are multiple services that any number of people can use.
A Lemmy website can operate alone. Just like a traditional website, people sign up on it, post messages, upload pictures and talk to each other. Unlike a traditional website, Lemmy instances can interoperate, letting their users communicate with each other; just like you can send an email from your Gmail account to someone from Outlook, Fastmail, Proton Mail, or any other email provider, as long as you know their email address, you can mention or message anyone on any website using their address.
Lemmy uses a standardized, open protocol to implement federation which is called ActivityPub. Any software that likewise implements federation via ActivityPub can seamlessly communicate with Lemmy, just like Lemmy instances communicate with one another.
The fediverse (“federated universe”) is the name for all instances that can communicate with each other over ActivityPub and the World Wide Web. That includes all Lemmy servers, but also other implementations:
In practical terms: Imagine if you could follow a Facebook group from your Reddit account and comment on its posts without leaving your account. If Facebook and Reddit were federated services that used the same protocol, that would be possible. With a Lemmy account, you can communicate with any other compatible instance, even if it is not running on Lemmy. All that is necessary is that the software support the same subset of the ActivityPub protocol.
Unlike proprietary services, anyone has the complete freedom to run, examine, inspect, copy, modify, distribute, and reuse the Lemmy source code. Just like how users of Lemmy can choose their service provider, you as an individual are free to contribute features to Lemmy or publish a modified version of Lemmy that includes different features. These modified versions, also known as software forks, are required to also uphold the same freedoms as the original Lemmy project. Because Lemmy is libre software that respects your freedom, personalizations are not only allowed but encouraged.
Choosing an instance
If you are used to sites like Reddit, then Lemmy works in a fundamentally different way. Instead of a single website like reddit.com, there are many different websites (called instances). These are operated by different people, have different topics and rules. Nevertheless, posts created in one instance can directly be seen by users who are registered on another. Its basically like email, but for social media.
This means before using Lemmy and registering an account, you need to pick an instance. For this you can browse the instance list and look for one that matches your topics of interest. You can also see if the rules match your expectations, and how many users there are. It is better to avoid very big or very small instances. But don’t worry too much about this choice, you can always create another account on a different instance later.
[instance list screenshot] Registration
Once you choose an instance, it’s time to create your account. To do this, click sign up in the top right of the page, or click the top right button on mobile to open a menu with sign up link.
[registration page screenshot]
On the signup page you need to enter a few things:
<span style="color:#323232;">Username: How do you want to be called? This name can not be changed and is unique within an instance. Later you can also set a displayname which can be freely changed. If your desired username is taken, consider choosing a different instance where it is still available.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Email: Your email address. This is used for password resets and notifications (if enabled). Providing an email address is usually optional, but admins may choose to make it mandatory. In this case you will have to wait for a confirmation mail and click the link after completing this form.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Password: The password for logging in to your account. Make sure to choose a long and unique password which isn't used on any other website.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Verify password: Repeat the same password from above to ensure that it was entered correctly.
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There are also a few optional fields, which you may need to fill in depending on the instance configuration:
<span style="color:#323232;">Question/Answer: Instance admins can set an arbitrary question which needs to be answered in order to create an account. This is often used to prevent spam bots from signing up. After submitting the form, you will need to wait for some time until the answer is approved manually before you can login.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Code: A captcha which is easy to solve for humans but hard for bots. Enter the letters and numbers that you see in the text box, ignoring uppercase or lowercase. Click the refresh button if you are unable to read a character. The play button plays an audio version of the captcha.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Show NSFW content: Here you can choose if content that is "not safe for work" (or adult-only) should be shown.
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When you are done, press the sign up button.
It depends on the instance configuration when you can login and start using the account. In case the email is mandatory, you need to wait for the confirmation email and click the link first. In case “Question/Answer” is present, you need to wait for an admin to manually review and approve your registration. If you have problems with the registration, try to get in contact with the admin for support. You can also choose a different instance to sign up if your primary choice does not work. Following communities
After logging in to your new account, its time to follow communities that you are interested in. For this you can click on the communities link at the top of the page (on mobile, you need to click the menu icon on the top right first). You will see a list of communities which can be filtered by subscribed, local or all. Local communities are those which are hosted on the same site where you are signed in, while all also contains federated communities from other instances. In any case you can directly subscribe to communities with the right-hand subscribe link. Or click on the community name to browse the community first, see what its posted and what the rules are before subscribing.
Another way to find communities to subscribe to is by going to the front page and browsing the posts. If there is something that interests you, click on the post title to see more details and comments. Here you can subscribe to the community in the right-hand sidebar, or by clicking the “sidebar” button on mobile.
These previous ways will only show communities that are already known to the instance. Especially if you joined a small or inactive Lemmy instance, there will be few communities to discover. You can find more communities by browsing different Lemmy instances, or using the Lemmy Community Browser. When you found a community that you want to follow, enter its URL (e.g. feddit.de/c/main) or the identifier (e.g. !main) into the search field of your own Lemmy instance. Lemmy will then fetch the community from its original instance, and allow you to interact with it. The same method also works to fetch users, posts or comments from other instances. Setting up your profile
Before you start posting, its a good idea to provide some details about yourself. Open the top-right menu and go to “settings”. Here the following settings are available for your public profile:
<span style="color:#323232;">Displayname: An alternative username which can be changed at any time
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Bio: Long description of yourself, can be formatted with Markdown
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Matrix User: Your username on the decentralized Matrix chat
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Avatar: Profile picture that is shown next to all your posts
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Banner: A header image for your profile page
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On this page you can also change the email and password. Additionally there are many other settings available, which allow customizing of your browsing experience:
<span style="color:#323232;">Blocks (tab at top of the page): Here you can block users and communities, so that their posts will be hidden.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Interface language: Which language the user interface should use.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Languages: Select the languages that you speak to see only content in these languages. This is a new feature and many posts don't specify a language yet, so be sure to select "Undetermined" to see them.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Theme: You can choose between different color themes for the user interface. Instance admins can add more themes.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Type: Which timeline you want to see by default on the frontpage; only posts from communities that you subscribe to, posts in local communities, or all posts including federated.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Sort type: How posts and comments should be sorted by default. See Votes and Ranking for details.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Show NSFW content: Whether or not you want to see content that is "not safe for work" (or adult-only).
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Show Scores: Whether the number of upvotes and downvotes should be visible.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Show Avatars: Whether profile pictures of other users should be shown.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Bot Account: Enable this if you are using a script or program to create posts automatically
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Show Bot Accounts: Disable this to hide posts that were created by bot accounts.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Show Read Posts: If this is disabled, posts that you already viewed are not shown in listings anymore. Useful if you want to find
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Nerevar, mortal, I, Dagoth Ur(the god), sense your presence in my Lemmy instance. I must admit, it pleases me to have an individual from a politically left-leaning community among my followers. Your alignment with progressive ideals aligns with the principles of change and transformation that I represent.
As for the Communists, while I may have a dislike for them due to ideological differences, I acknowledge their existence as beings in this world. They have their place in their beliefs, and I would prefer they adhere to their ideologies. However, I do wish they would read up on history to gain a deeper understanding of the consequences of their actions. Ideologies, once adopted, are seldom forgotten, but knowledge can shape the path forward.
I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan
PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs
The great thing (though it’s sometimes a curse) is that posts in any community will show up in the local and all feeds on the host instance, and the all feed on remote instances so long as at least one user is subscribed. So even communities with low subscribers can reach a wide audience.
Any thoughts on building this community on a different instance? It’s better for the system if communities are distributed, and you also get related communities close to each other.
Connect does not collapse cross-posts into the same post in the post feed
Recently had some people tell me that connect isn’t collapsing cross-posts so when a post is posted to multiple communities at the same time it floods the feed...
Oh no ... (jlai.lu)
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What reasons are there for being concerned about companies like google and meta etc collecting data and tracking me?
Please understandnim asking this question from a genuine place. I dont want the quora answer, i want the tech savvy, security expert minds of my fellow lemmings. If thats ok?...
Fellow Lemmings, how to create Social Media that does not have mods? (lemmy.world)
I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me....
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rules for thee, but not for me (lemmy.ca)
To be clear, not talking about this community, obviously 😛....
Oh hi there (lemmy.ml)
those ppl... (feddit.de)
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How does one create a sub-group at Lemmy?
My favorite group pre collapse was r/typewriters — how does one go about creating a sub here and having word of it get out?
Help me Build a Small Community (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
I originally asked for things along the lines of survival: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/4805526...
how to receive alert when comments removed?
Censorship is absolutely rampant on Lemmy. I don’t post particularly controversial stuff, but I am an active commenter and I’ve noticed that mods will just wipe my comments or those of others on a whim. I think this is a huge issue and one of the biggest downsides about switching from reddit. I very rarely had comments...
Moving from reddit rn, a good place to get started?
I’m currently on the pawb.social instance, and already found some neat communities, still looking for recommendations however
Have you heard of our lord and savor Federation? (loot.buckodr.ink)
Your big brain conservtive/capitalist takes will be laughed at (lemmy.world)
Reddit is dead. Long live the Fediverse. (lemmy.ml)
Don't get your hopes too high (lemmy.world)
Share your playlist - A community to share yours or other people playlists
!playlistsharing /c/playlistsharing@lemmy.world