Unfortunately, reddit has been too long and entrenched in society to “remove” it from our browsers. It is very different from Twitter or another social network. Lemmy is a great project. I hope it works and establishes itself as a real alternative, but it still has a long way to go. Unfortunately, the Reddit/Lemmy format is resource intensive, and that’s the problem with a service like this.
It’s my simple opinion. I support any fediverso project, but reddit, today I think it is irreplaceable.
Thanks to the whole blackout thing and the many amazing apps that came to Lemmy (like Sync that I’m using rn and loving), Lemmy is now good enough to replace Reddit for the new content (at least in my opinion)
But Reddit is not (or at least not only) an “what’s happening now” social network like Twitter and there is a huge amount of old content on it that can still really useful. So I guess that, in the best scenario, we’ll have Reddit and Lemmy cohexist and complement each other :)
Well, its a federation. So the instances that wish to be associated with such, will be. And the ones that don’t, won’t be. Your language is limited by your concept of a website. Reconsider the concept if you wish and update your language accordingly. It will make your comments more clear.
in the scenario I imagine, and am seeing definite signs of, the ‘federation’ will fragment into 2 camps: one that tolerates fascists and one that doesnt, and the one that tolerates them will become a new reddit except this time its not directly run by the FBI/spez etc but has the same bad habits and same bad apples
It’ll become walled gardens. I mean, I’m not that worried easy come easy go in my view, hexbear will continue to truck along whether the lemmiverse falls to fascists or just becomes fractured due to their influence.
With the sheer number of @Civility liberals that get mad at the existence of people more left than them in federated spaces but go out of their way to “dae both sides” justify the presence of nazis, I’d say the chances are higher than that.
I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan
PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs
I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I’m one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - futurology.today ) It’s been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.
This is despite the fact we’ve permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.
People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn’t care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.
My father had a doctorate of engineering. He was a brilliant man. When I saw him search for Google and then follow the search link to google.com, to then search on their home page, I started to tell him he should search from the address / search field in his browser. He was instantly becoming confused and so I said, “nevermind,” because his way got him satisfactory results so why bother. Some people aren’t dumb at all. They just don’t care about the same things you or I mighty enough to learn them (beyond basics).
IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.
But yeah, we don’t even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps’ feed and, rarely, their browser’s default start page. They don’t choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.
and why would they? … they are pretty happy with what they have now.
Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who’ve setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.
My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn’t too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.
But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it’s expressing.
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