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Awoo, (edited ) to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?

As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.

I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. illegal-to-say

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

Bus, train or taxi.

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Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized

If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.

Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.

I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads

This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.

The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.

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Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.

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This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.

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There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.

It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.

when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned

This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.

You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

Ay that’s a surprise at least.

You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.

Awoo, (edited ) to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.

This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.

Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?

Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?

Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.

Awoo, to fuck_cars in Speed camera cut down for second time in Cornwall

If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.

I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.

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