BearOfaTime

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BearOfaTime,

You’re trading your own feelings for your kid’s long-term well-being and learning. Many people would take the easy approach because your way is “scary”. Bravery is doing what needs to be done even if you’re afraid.

I’d call that right and proper. It’s what we adults are supposed to do. The number of times I’ve carried a crying infant to get them settled down while I could barely walk from excruciating back pain… It’s our job to take that on.

It’s funny, many of those parents who are tracking their kids would probably say “I sacrifice every day by working long hours so my kids have a warm, safe home” without realizing that giving them a long leash is also a sacrifice of parent’s (willingly take on worry) so kids grow up well.

BearOfaTime,

Please tell me you’re educating your family in privacy issues. This tracking circumstance is an excellent opportunity to approach it with a education mindset instead of the stereotypical kids/parents conflict.

Check out www.theprivacydad.com it’s a great starting point for parents who don’t know tech enough to realize what’s going on.

BearOfaTime,

My problem with these apps is twofold:

Primarily it means these companies know where your kids are, and they are building a dB of locations and other info of the kid (likely including online activity via other ops on the phone, etc), starting tracking early.

Second, it’s a poor way to manage trust between parents and kids. I refuse to use it, and refuse to help anyone I know use it, and explain to them why.

If you don’t trust your kids, then work on resolving that issue. And before anyone says “I trust my kids but not other people”, well, you gonna go everywhere with them to protect them from other people, or teach them how to navigate life, and learn to develop their own independent judgement?

There are self-hostable tracking systems. One is in my queue to setup for family/friends. It’ll be configured so anyone in a circle can use it, but these people trust each other. We intend it for arrival/departure notifications more than anything.

Next smartphone I buy, which one do you recommend?

Things that make me angry about my current smartphone Samsung Galaxy S21Ultra on a Verizon plan is the mandatory software updates in which they install WITHOUT MY PERMISSION stupid apps like Netflix and addictive gambling games and stacking block games and Candy crush. God knows what else they install without my permission. I...

BearOfaTime, (edited )

You nay be able to disable the installer that reinstalls those apps.

Check out Universal Android Debloater

github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater

BearOfaTime,

Flash a third party OS like Graphene/Lineage/DivestOS. No more bloat.

A Pixel is rootable, which would enable you to remove whatever you want. Though I prefer starting clean.

BearOfaTime, (edited )

Check out DivestOS. It’s a fork of lineage with a focus on better security and privacy. Not restrictive like Graphene. Rootable via magisk.

So far I’m liking it. Great battery life (lowest I’ve ever seen) even on my 5 year old phone.

BearOfaTime, (edited )

I carry an iPhone for work, corp IT manages it, I use little more than comm stuff there, so theres no advantage to having an Android. (Before that my work phone was a blackberry, because I need work calls, email, messaging, etc to just work, and you couldn’t beat the battery life).

My personal is Android, because I want the tools I can use there.

Two very different use-cases.

And I really dislike iOS UI/UX, the limitations are very constricting. But for the basics it “just works”, but it isn’t something to recommend for privacy.

BearOfaTime,

Just avoid carrier-branded phones. Those are often boot locked.

BearOfaTime,

Its not hard to flash a rom these days, unlike ten years ago.

Now developers post instructions for each device type. Look at Lineage, Graphene, DivestOS. Very good instructions from all of them, including installing ADB on Windows or Linux.

Of the dozens (hundreds?) of times I’ve flashed over the years, I’ve bricked 1 device, and that was from experimenting and not following instructions, I knew it was risky.

And with Pixel it’s about as straightforward as it gets.

BearOfaTime,

This is the privacy community, I wouldn’t consider iOS appropriate here at all, since you really can’t do anything to limit the data collection. Especially not for a “what phone should I get” question. If someone already has an iPhone, asking what you can do is a good question (“not much” is the answer you’ll get).

Is it better out if the box than most Androids? Probably, maybe, depending on how that’s defined. But I can quickly make most Androids far better than iOS, even ones with a lot of vendor bloat.

For example, I recently cleaned up a Verizon Samsung just using the Universal Android Debloat Tool. This is stuff I used to do manually with ADB.

Then adding a VPN and I could restrict apps calling home and bypass Google DNS.

You can even disable google services, play, etc, and just don’t use a google acccount on the phone.

github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater

Signal leaked random contacts to me! (feddit.de)

When I press on some message to forward it, it shows me Random usernames of contacts I don’t know. And it even shows some Mobile Numbers I don’t know. For example, one number starts with +964 that’s Iraq. I’m from Europe tho. These contacts and numbers are from all over the place....

BearOfaTime,

Noticed in one of your comments this is happening on Signal desktop. Is this a windows machine? Maybe update your post so people are aware it’s no on Android

BearOfaTime,

How does DivestOS compare to Graphene in your opinion?

Divest is based on Lineage, which isn’t as secure as Graphene (by a significant margin), but my understanding is Divest has done some things to improve sscurity/privacy.

I realize since we’re talking a Pixel here, Graphene is the security/privacy answer. I have other phones in my “support circle” that can use Lineage or Divest, and I’d like to advise people appropriately.

BearOfaTime,

Your address is public information. Trying to hide that is pointless (well, it can be done, but is complex to do).

BearOfaTime,

“The you won’t kind providing me with your full birth name, ss#, address, mother’s maiden name, bank account number, pin, computer login, phone login” etc, etc.

Suddenly they’ll be worried about privacy.

BearOfaTime,

Hahah, damn, nice reframing! Have an upvote.

BearOfaTime,

From a privacy perspective, it’s pretty damn good, one of the best.

Hell on battery, unfortunately. I keep it around as an emergency use only service, and don’t run it otherwise.

Privacy benefits of Custom roms

So recently my moto G60 reached the end of life with respect to security updates. That was the reason I was using to prevent myself from switching to a custom rom(actual reason is laziness). This phone has rom support for pixel experience and lineage OS. So my questions are if pixel experience has any privacy advantages when...

BearOfaTime, (edited )

DivestOS (a Lineage fork) permits you to run MicroG as a user app, so it can be run within a user profile (e.g.the work profile).

How do you think this compares to the Graphene approach? (This stuff is above my pay grade, hence the question).

DivestOS.org

Edit: Divest is only available for a handful of devices, fewer than what Lineage supports.

BearOfaTime,

Nice to have this in an app.

You can also reproduce this with apps like Macrodroid or Tasker too.

BearOfaTime,

Simplex has been out for a year or so.

It’s tough getting people used to systems that respect privacy, since Out-of-band ID sharing is part of that.

US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone records – 'usually' without a warrant (www.theregister.com)

A senator has complained that American law enforcement agencies snoop on US citizens and residents, seemingly without regard for the privacy provisions of the Fourth Amendment, under a secret program called the Hemisphere Project that allows police to conduct searches of trillions of phone records.

BearOfaTime,

Well that’s at least one step removed from what they were doing in the 90’s, when Verizon(?) dta centers had direct connections for feds to snoop.

I don’t remember the details, just that it was a big deal at the time. And I’m just sure they stopped doing it, right?

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