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Count042, to memes in The whole situation sickens me

hrw.org/…/israel-soldiers-punishment-using-boy-hu…

This is what human shields look like.

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

The other comment:

40% of those deaths are children

Where is that info from? Gonna wait for independent journalists to provide information on this, right?

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

I do have a political agenda. Not tolerating or trying to justify genocide.

I’m pretty satisfied with the morality of the political stance of ‘Never Again’

There is no middle ground or appeasement to genocide.

Count042, to memes in The whole situation sickens me

Not by you:

Again, I think Israel should rightfully be criticized for many things, but clearing out Hamas makes sense when viewed as it’s own topic. And looking at the number of high civilian casualties in Gaza they are being criticized even by the USA, you still have to consider that Hamas are hiding in civilian infrastructure on purpose to use them as human shields. Also while the numbers of casualties in Gaza are being reported from inside Gaza you would not know how many of them are actually part of Hamas. They won’t give you this information.

This is you ‘both-siding’ genocide.

There is one proper response to genocide. Unconditional condemnation without qualifying. Anything else is standing idlely by.

Criticism while also saying ‘but Hamas did this’ is not unconditional condemnation.

Let me ask you this: do you think there is any behavior that can justify genocide?

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

The Palestinians tried a peaceful protest in the march of return two years ago.

The IDF slaughtered them, intentionally targeting medics.

Bibi used coded language in a speech in Hebrew calling the Palestinians amaleks. God ordered the Jewish tribe, in the old testament, to slaughter the amaleks man, woman, child, and beast of burden.

CNN was allowed a journalist to embed with the IDF, but only if the IDF was allowed full editorial control. FULL control.

At this point, you not knowing this is likely you ‘just trying to ask questions’ in a bad faith effort to justify genocide, which you obliquely admit to in another comment. Israel is still not allowing food or water in.

Count042, to memes in The whole situation sickens me

Not letting food and water sufficient for a population of 2.2 million in when you control the borders is intentionally killing civilians.

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

Again, I think Israel should rightfully be criticized for many things, but clearing out Hamas makes sense when viewed as it’s own topic. And looking at the number of high civilian casualties in Gaza they are being criticized even by the USA, you still have to consider that Hamas are hiding in civilian infrastructure on purpose to use them as human shields. Also while the numbers of casualties in Gaza are being reported from inside Gaza you would not know how many of them are actually part of Hamas. They won’t give you this information.

This is you justifying it.

Let me guess: you’re a member of the Alternative for Germany party?

Count042, to memes in The whole situation sickens me

What differentiates Hamas from the Israel government that causes you to describe it as a terrorist organization and the Israel government as not?

The definition is killing civilians to cause political change.

Israel, by many governmental officials descriptions, is trying to cause maximum damage to Gaza in retaliation, including the deaths of a civilian population. Most of whom, notably were too young to vote for Hamas.

Israel has repeatedly bombed hospitals run by MSF, schools, and ambulances. They always claim Hamas was there, and yet, the MSF doctors state they weren’t. The schools weren’t likely housing Hamas, and when journalists check the ambulances, find no weapons or military uniforms.

Let me ask you this: what could Israel do that you wouldn’t think is justified?

Please, answer that. I’d be willing to bet I could find an example. And if there is nothing, then I know you’re an extremist that is okay with genocide.

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

Again, I think Israel should rightfully be criticized for many things, but clearing out Hamas makes sense when viewed as it’s own topic. And looking at the number of high civilian casualties in Gaza they are being criticized even by the USA, you still have to consider that Hamas are hiding in civilian infrastructure on purpose to use them as human shields. Also while the numbers of casualties in Gaza are being reported from inside Gaza you would not know how many of them are actually part of Hamas. They won’t give you this information.

This is literally justification.

Maybe try not justifying the murder of over 10,000 civilians if you don’t want toxicity.

Count042, to memes in The whole situation sickens me

I should have known better:

I appreciate your attempt to bring rationality and reason to the discussion, but you’re wasting your time on this shithole.

yeah, I realized this half way through typing but wanted to finish this anyway.

And yeah, asking for independent verification the way you did absolutely implies denial. I should have realized that from your instance that you’re from a country that literally defines anti-Zionism as antisemitism.

Count042, to memes in The whole situation sickens me

Heres some simple information. Gazas population was over 50 percent under 18. I.e. children.

It’s within reasonable margin to divide the casualties by two to get the number of dead children.

I personally have two friends who’ve had their entire extended families blown up.

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

reuters.com/…/despite-bidens-doubts-humanitarian-…

Here’s one, sorta, that doesn’t include where they checked a Palestinian employees family bit, but it’s the middle of the night and I’m trying to go back to sleep. I’ll find it in the morning.

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

No, I advocate for them to demand a single Democratic state with Democratic rights for everyone, regardless of ethnicity. Since, you know, they’ve intentionally done everything possible to kill a two state solution.

Otherwise, they promote an apartheid vision for the region.

Also, it does exist solely because of Zionists. Where do you think it came from?

Count042, to memes in The whole situation sickens me

Anyone conflating being anti-Zionist with being antisemitic isn’t being reasonable.

I would argue it’s pretty antisemitic to think that Israel speaks for all Jewish people.

Count042, (edited ) to memes in The whole situation sickens me

Don’t intentionally drive them out of their homes in an ethnic cleansing and steal their fucking land and kill them off every couple of years like ‘mowing the grass’.

Maybe don’t slaughter them when they try non violent protests.

Maybe don’t have an apartheid state that south Africans that suffered under an apartheid state described as being worse than South Africa.

Oh, while we’re on that topic, maybe don’t give weapons to south Africa when the rest of the world is boycotting them for their evil, or test nuclear weapons with them?

Maybe don’t try to ethnically cleanse your neighbors?

Sadly, I know all of those were apparently too much to ask.

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