HappycamperNZ

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HappycamperNZ, (edited )

LGBT contains 4, cis woman is a 5th, and is not the entirety of the list.

Why do you have to be offended by everything that doesn’t align with your exact view of the world. I’m going to assume you aren’t a cis male based on your responses here, and if you are that exact attitude is where these discriminate views come from.

Edit: and would rather keep the closet view than open discussion. Not blocked because I believe these discussions need to be had.

HappycamperNZ,

I fully agree, so why don’t we target that. Pushing select groups opens the divide between different parts of society rather than considering us as one.

HappycamperNZ,

In an ideal world, yes. Practically speaking effective groups grow and develop based on shared goals and values. You can’t just put a LGBT person in a group for the sake of putting one there, especially if it costs a better performing person their job. Would you walk away from you job to give it to a non straight person, and how would the team feel knowing that how you identify is more important than what you can do? How about being handed over crap by a person and you can say or do nothing about it because they were hired on inclusivity principles and any issues with their work are just called bigotry and seismic?

If you hire based on inclusion, that is why that person is there.

HappycamperNZ,

Responding because I want to come back to this chat after work - believe this is discussions that need to be had.

HappycamperNZ,

Ok, got a few minutes.

First point - if your entire team are cis white males your hiring manager or recruiter should be fired as (unless 95% of surround pop are cis white male) they are already hiring based on race and gender, or not casting a wide net to identify the best applicants. Nearly 50% of my team were born overseas and not a single one was hired based on race or identity.

I suppose my argument boils down to one key question - is it acceptable to hire someone based on sexual orientation/ identity or race… likewise should this be a part of the advertising and hiring process.

HappycamperNZ,

That’s ok, you don’t have to reply. I am hoping, however to get a response from the only person responding in this thread who is disagreeing without resorting to insults.

I find it kinda like the covid vaccine - vaccines don’t cause autism, are considerably safer than not having them, but you still need to take a step back to assess before you dive right into it.

HappycamperNZ,

The other perspective of this is those rich white men got that way by making something that wanted to be seen. If the demand existed for alternate perspectives those movies would be what Hollywood was, instead of small indie productions.

HappycamperNZ, (edited )

I didn’t post the original comment. And they were offended enough to start questioning the intelligence of someone asking a question that honestly, sounds like a good point - its targeting everyone but straight males. Let alone i have no idea where they got groups from.

I will be honest, don’t know where you got empowerment from.

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