Kichae

@Kichae@kbin.social

Astronomer & video game data scientist with repressed anger

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Kichae,

Me, noticing Riker: "I don't get it. Why is Abraham Lincoln here?"

Me, finally noticing Picard: "KILL IT WITH FIRE!"

Kichae,

Holy shit, someone that actually likes that aural abomination?

Are you the reason it won't fucking die?

Kichae,

It's the word of the day every day they be doing war crimes.

Not only is it impossible to evacuate that many people in that short a time, but they're basically declaring that they're going to use their military to targer and kill civilians.

Which is a war crime.

"Hamas did it first" doesn't give them a pass here. If it's not ok for Hamas, it's not ok for the Israeli state. And inverting that, if it is ok for the Israeli state...

Kichae,

Hang out with it long enough to see it drunk, then report back on whether it's still looks perfectly straight or not.

Kichae,

When will my Steak have Trumps Face printed on it?

Like 15 years ago.

Kichae,

The whole point of that server is to allow people to simply login and then participate in other instances from there.

In order for users on lemmy.one to interact with content on other instances, lemmy.one has to import and host that content. So, it has plenty of content on it, just most of it originated elsewhere. That remote content should be just as indexable as local content.

Kichae,

Yup. It's mirrored content all the way down.

Kichae,

I don’t think it should be done by a specific name, it should be user defined, I should be able to add the communities together which I deem that they do belong together for some reason.

This.

People are used to a single handle mapping to a single community, and I get that they want that to still be true, but it isn't here. It just isn't. Having a communities auto-group in any way is asking for a bad time for all involved.

First of all, people generally are not considering the contexts that those communities are situated in. My go-to example here is politics communities. r/politics is, very frustratingly, about American politics, but that isn't going to be universally true here for communities named politics. You should not assume that an Australian based server, a Canadian based server, a UK based server, an Indian based, etc. will reserve that name to deal with, well, foreign politics. And having them automatically lumped together will functionally destroy the communities on instances focused on smaller countries.

In top of that, it's wide open door for troll instances.

If people want lists of communities, that's fine. That's great even. I'd love to lump together some sports communities so that when I'm in the mood for that, I can find them all in one place. It'd be cool to be able to have them optionally not show up in Subscribed, too. But auto-grouping is one of those features that is actively bad for smaller communities, and which people really only think they want. It's more of a sign that people aren't opening their mind to this new space and paradigm they find themselves in than an actually useful feature.

Kichae,

Brands don't have to do shit like this. They have weird trolls with weirder parasocial relationships to intellectual property to do it for them, unprompted.

Kichae,

By my own accord? Probably Back to the Future 2/3, or Serenity. But my partner and step-son spent 6 months last year watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy over and over again, so those are the ones I've probably actually seen the most number of times.

Kichae,

Once you get them together, consider doing the POSSE thing and posting them to a blog first. That way you can retain full control of them and still spread them around wherever they may be useful. There's even an ActivityPub module for WordPress!

Kichae,

If they all want to pile into exploding-heads, it would at least make them easy to contain.

I wonder if there could be a way to effectively shadow-ban entire instances.

Kichae,

No, defederation isn't shadowed. If an instance defederates from you, you stop receiving content from them, and it's pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that you've been defederated.

Plus, on Lemmy at least, block lists are publicly viewable.

Kichae,

The API will come. It's still very early days for the kbin project. It's, uh, kind of alpha software.

Kichae, (edited )

I've been abused. I suffer from ongoing complex PTSD from that abuse.

I have some fucking perspective, thank you very fucking much.

And that perspective is that the word is broadly defined, and that exploitation is fucking abuse. It's not physical abuse, no, and I didn't say that it was. I'm fact, I was very careful to avoid such comparisons. But exploiting people for their time and labour so that you can generate obscene amounts of wealth for yourself is exploitative, it involves lying to people, both implicitly and explicitly, and it involves engaging in emotional and psychological manipulation.

And that's a type of fucking abuse. It's the exact same type of abuse that narcissists inflict on their victims. It's just being done in a way that the law and our culture sees as legitimate, because there's a lot of money involved, and we all fall under the yolk of rich mother fuckers who think they deserve more from us, just because they already have money.

I make the comparisons not because I lack perspective, but because I have it.

Because corporate behaviour like this feels too fucking familiar, given that perspective.

Kichae,

People love to blame the victim for defending themselves over the problematic person who is abusing them, because if they acknowledge that someone is being abusive that kind of morally obligates them to step in.

And they very much don't want to do that.

And obviously the exploitation of users for their knowledge and content so that the owners of Reddit Inc. can gain wealth for sitting on their thumbs is different from the kind of abuse one's mind might go to when the word is raised, but it's the same dynamic.

Someone is claiming mistreatment, those around them are annoyed by the claims, not by the mistreatment, because the person standing up for themselves is putting onlookers in the dangerous position of examining their relationship to that mistreatment.

And they don't wanna.

Kichae, (edited )

If you're expecting everyone to leave Reddit, you're going to be disappointed. Most Reddit users do. Not. Care. They'll stay for as long as Reddit entertains them.

The Twitter migration was actually a really great thing for the Fediverse. It diversified Mastodon, and made it an actually lively space. It's still a nerdy space, but it's so much more than it was. It's a genuinely general and engaging microblogging space. And while, yes, it doesn't have everything that draws the Twitter clout chasers, celebrity watchers, and journalists or politicians, it's a viable alternative for people who are looking to actually engage with each other.

The same is true here, and will be true after tomorrow.

Edit: Autocorrect hates me

Kichae, (edited )

If you want like 10,000 instant karma, bet on a New post and say snarky shit. If it gets picked to be one of the magic posts of the day, you win.

Just don't say anything meaningful, or you'll fall below the next person commenting for the lulz.

That's what a healthy community looks like. Right?

Kichae, (edited )

If you want to hang out with the Nazis, just say so and go. No one is stopping you.

Kichae,

Sure, but anyone complaining about defederation in the context of "group think" probably isn't thinking about how much it sucks that small spaces can't moderate well enough.

Kichae,

Once you have enough of it to live a comfortable life, money just becomes about power. So, what we have is some spoiled rich asshole who is used to having influence and power being shown that most of that was a gift. That gift has been recinded, and so the only control he has left is money.

He's spending some of Reddit's current and future earnings on stepping on necks. Because that's what the cash was going to be used for, in one way or another, anyway.

Kichae,

Yes. The ability for users and admins to literally choose their feature sets while still getting access to the same content is a big, big plus for for the distributed and federated model

Kichae,

The John Oliver stuff is happening on Reddit, though. That's where the attention is, that's where his face is being plastered everywhere. It really has nothing to do with anything here.

It's all people who don't want to bebherr, sending the message that they don't want over there to change.

Plus he's probably heard of Reddit, but not Lemmy, kbin, or the Fediverse. And he has no dog in

Kichae, (edited )

IQ probably has little to do with it. It's socialization and learned expectation that are acting as a filter currently.

Kichae,

People get suckered into the sunk-costs fallacy all of the time, and managers of large communities are going to be extra prone to it when they're told they'll have "their communities" taken away from them.

Remember, these people are fighting to "save Reddit". They see the possibility of having corporate friendly scabs take over as a community-destroying and a Reddit destroying proposition.

The event horizon of a black hole is the 2-dimensional surface across which the possibility of turning back is eliminated. At that point, space and time become so twisted that there is no longer an "outwards" direction. Every road leads in. But in supermassive black holes, that event horizon is so far away from the centre that the actual tidal forces -- the forces which pull things apart when they're near large gravity sources -- are remarkably weak. You would not notice the difference between being 1 km above the event horizon and 1 km beneath it. If you weren't being careful, you could cross that event horizon without ceremony and without realizing you'd doomed yourself.

This is how it is with big services, too. The thing that makes them irrelevant happens long before revenues or usage decline. In fact, there's likely still growth! But there'll be an inflection point in the acceleration that those who don't know what to look for won't even notice. Then it could take months, or even years, for things to turn around and decay into nothing of value.

These mods are trying to save something that has already experienced its killing blow. Something that will cease being what it was long before it ceases to be. Something that has already quietly -- though not too quietly -- slipped past the event horizon.

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