LWD

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LWD,

Simplifiedprivacy dot com needs to be blacklisted from Lemmy communities, it’s a blog trying to sell some really silly services.

As for Session, they’ve never made an original product that I’ve ever seen - they took Signal and Monero, peeled off the labels, and made them (especially Signal, IMO) worse in both aesthetics and privacy protection.

And the company behind this is in Australia, a country where you need to weaken products (by adding backdoors) upon government request.

LWD,

Apple: opens its wallet

LWD,

Not sure if it’s a fallacy if it’s about addressing people who have spent a ton on an ecosystem and can’t just devote more money to buy the alternative and time to figure out the parts that aren’t compatible

LWD,

You can’t refund anything that’s not physical, for one…

LWD,

Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU

“Both is good” El Dorado meme

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Mozilla: ignores years of customer complaints and requests

Mozilla: creates new product nobody asked for

Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”

LWD,

You asked what parts aren’t compatible, and one answer is everything bought for Apple computers, iPhones, iPads, etc. Apps, media, anything that isn’t subscription based.

LWD,

Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?

I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.

Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?

Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?

Why bring up Google at all?

LWD,

Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?

LWD,

I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?

It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.

LWD,

Gimp has a small subset of Photoshop features… That’s… Common knowledge

LWD,

What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?

The point of this thought experiment is to understand that sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy.

LWD,

I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.

So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.

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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.

And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about

LWD,

Apple: innovating, despite their best efforts

LWD,

From metadata alone, you could identify somebody at a strip club on Friday, a church on Sunday, and an STD clinic on Tuesday

LWD, (edited )

A less private Tor or a hyper VPN.

A bit less private because things are going through one fewer hop, in addition to having to sign up. In my experience with Invisiv, it’s much faster and more reliable than Tor, but slower and much less stable than a traditional VPN.

It would be cool if more commercial VPN companies adopted this kind of tech.

LWD,

After reading their documentation a little closer, I discovered something else unsavory about Private Relay: it “relays” your approximate location, as it could usually be derived from your IP address.

Updated my comment.

LWD,

But in the case of iVPN, do they run both of the servers themselves? That’s always what I wondered about.

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Update: Apple’s role in adding extra location data to your request has been added to this post

Apple and a couple other providers have been experimenting with a multi-hop system of making your connections private.

Here’s what Cloudflare says.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/content/images/2022/03/image1.png

Here’s what a competitor, Invisiv, says.

https://invisv.com/img/relay.png

Both pages are pretty hard to parse (IMO Cloudflare uses more jargony language: “ingress”/“egress server” - really?) but they get to the same point.

https://i.imgur.com/n1BcDtt.jpegf

Your data takes a path like this

  1. Your computer, your IP address, your message to a destination gets encrypted in a couple layers and passed on.
  2. Your ISP knows exactly who you are and that you’re reaching out to server 1. They can’t see your data but to them, you’re using a VPN probably.
  3. The first server also necessarily knows who you are, unpacks one layer of your request and sends it on to a second server (in Invisiv’s case, Fastly; in Apple’s, Cloudflare).
  4. The second server now knows that data was requested from the first server, and it can see the name of the domain you’re requesting (YouTube, for example) but because the request came from the first server, it theoretically won’t know it’s you making that request
  5. The data moves on from the second server to the destination, with the destination only knowing it’s receiving data from the second server, and not knowing about the first server.

The obvious issues here:

  • Do you trust the people providing the multi-hop VPN-like service?
  • Do you trust the two servers, which have necessarily entered into an agreement of some sort, to not collaborate regarding transmitting data?
  • How easy is it to audit the code we can see?
  • What else is going on with your data?

In the case of Apple/Cloudflare, reputation is rather poor. From PRISM to false advertising to notification telemetry, Apple hasn’t exactly delivered on their promise. In terms of Invisiv, the company has some big names on board but Fastly and Cloudflare both have a rather significant grip on the internet (with Cloudflare’s being bigger) but any CDN gets a good view into personal data most of the time.

Update: in the case of Cloudflare/Apple, Apple adds additional location data to your request, making its “private” relay leak approximate location data the same way your IP address could leak it. To wit:

Apple relays geolocate user IP addresses and translate them into a “geohash”. Geohashes are compact representations of latitude and longitude.

But on the bright side: a VPN has far more issues than either of these, as it’s basically #4 above except the same service also has your identity by necessity. An untrustworthy VPN is as harmful as an untrustworthy ISP, with very little separating them.

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For those posting suggestions, do the providers also require KYC at some point?

I know for a fact that Vultr, Digitalocean, and Namecheap (and a few others people have mentioned to me before) will need your identity at time of purchase.

I can understand why verifying a customer’s identity is important to these providers, but at the same time, I’m mostly worried that they will be the victims of some data breach in the future.

Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control (github.com)

I’ve been grappling with a concern that I believe many of us share: the lack of privacy controls on Lemmy. As it stands, our profiles are public, and all our posts and comments are visible to anyone who cares to look. I don’t even care about privacy all that much, but this level of transparency feels to me akin to sharing my...

LWD,

There’s a grim tragedy in how many people in this comment section have either succumbed to defeat or actively seek to advocate against privacy.

The comments can mostly be boiled down to:

  • My data is online already, and I give up
  • Your data is online already, and you don’t deserve control over it
  • I have nothing to hide and nothing to fear (and you should too)

You will find Fediverse types are far more cynical and antagonistic to privacy than people on other platforms.

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