Pantherina

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Pantherina,

Could you explain how its more locked up?

Pantherina,

Kup, right? It has a systemsettings page?

Pantherina,

This is about DRM, an entirely different topic.

DRM is loaded on purpose, which is great.

But good point, there would need to be a “security” switch or else, that you select and that actually hardens the browser.

Vanilla should always work, and I agree I sometimes need a vanilla profile.

Firefox profiles are also horribly integrated into firefox. Like there is no GUI way to switch them, without entering “about config”. People think Firefox has no profiles and think thats a Chrome thing, which is fucked up as Chrome copied that

Pantherina,

This is the reason why people think privacy is hard. No, my mother should not need to find out how to set the correct settings.

A simple switch, GUI, to completely harden the browser, this would be the thing. about:preferences can be changed while running.

Pantherina,

From this comment I suppose you never used Librewolf or Arkenfox. The Torbrowser is only a hassle because

  • it uses “private browsing” always, which completely hinders people from saving anything. This is not needed, as cache, session etc could simply be deleted via the settings.
  • it uses the Tor network, which is a huge thing. Cloudflare and all that BS block you 90% because of that. Its even worse than with VPN
  • The real difficulties just come when you use Noscript, or Ublock with hard settings. The hardened browser alone is unproblematic. But if you use Noscript, you dont want to not use it anymore. Sites are so bloated with third party javascript that is simply not needed.

Firefox on Default is not stopping much tracking. It should teach users how to be private. Also work of course, but really. Other browsers will scream out way more data, thats for sure. But Firefox has all these features but nobody knows them.

So, in the end there is no real usecase for Firefox. And people use any other “secure” Browser instead

Pantherina,

I did. But why should I need to? Firefox is the product, if nobody uses Firefox mozilla uses marketshare. Why do we need Librewolf, which really is the only Firefox you should use out of the box? The same with Mull for Android, where damn “Firefox Focus” is their privacy option which is pretty useless.

If Firefox is so bad you need to use Librewolf, Firefox as a product is useless for many people.

I now use Firefox again and harden it myself. But I dont expect ANYONE to do that, as its even a bit too inconvenient for me

Pantherina,

Okay I just saw firefox advertises nice Collections now! But their privacy selection is… veeery lacking. But its a start

Pantherina,

I get you. But Firefox is not mass adopted, so you can assume its only the privacy concerned people. If you are about features, Firefox is good. But for the most part, and for people that dont care, Chrome is just as good, but with Webapps, using your phone as a 2FA key, flashing damn GrapheneOS through a browser, faster speed and supposedly a more secure sandbox.

Firefox relies on Google, but Google has no reason to support it anymore. So this funding will probably vanish soon.

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