when did the left agree we had to lie about the right to make them sound bad? That we just had to make up bullshit that obviously is a lie to go after people on the right?
In 1930s germany most people would vote for the facists, people did not turn to facism because they were born evil. That is to say, if you were german and lived through the effects of the end of ww1, you would be facist too
I dont want to inflict pain on humans specifically because they are humans. Your desire to not hurt these animals is just as arbitrary as my indifference to their suffering.