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A more nuanced explanation is available here, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/101759/Reddit-violates-CCPA#entry-comment-413421

TLDR reddit might not be restoring data that the user deleted, but there are some funky cases where it's easy to miss stuff when deleting manually. Which is exactly why Update #1 is so bad - it's basically impossible to delete everything without reddit's help.

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Great metaphor for reddit HQ's handling of the protests!

Reddit feels like it's gone back to 100% normalcy already. Was the protest a failure? (beehaw.org)

I was looking at reddit today, and the front-page felt like nothing happened. I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled and clicked into comments. Everything is popping off buzzing with activity. All the subreddits I was subscribed to that went dark are now back up and business as usual....

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The other thing to keep in mind is that looks can be deceiving. Reddit has had over half a month to clean up things like r/all from the fallout of the protests.

But my guess is, if you ask someone at reddit if it's now gone back to normal, well, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/112071/Reddit-protest-plunges-user-engagement-site-activity-and-ad-portal & https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/86420/Six-verified-Reddit-employees-discussing-the-current-atmosphere-at-the

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To all the folks saying that reddit couldn't replace the mods, that it was too big an effort, that they couldn't run a big sub all by themselves, I have only one thing to say to you.

You were right.

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TIHI was a fairly large sub, with almost multimilion level of subscribers. If reddit wanted to increase traffic and get more eyes on ads, they're doing quite a terrible job of it so far.

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I'm sure users will step forward if they care.

This is the part I didn't quite get. Like I am sure that there were users who requested this sub in r/redditrequest after r/TIHI became unmoderated.

For some reason I don't understand, these requests did not pan out and it ended up getting shut down instead.

At the very least, users stepping forward doesn't seem to be enough on its own.

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TIHI stood for Thanks, I Hate It. I never browsed but figure it was a meme sub on things to dislike.

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IIUC Narwhal 1 will be free but will drop its ads in return for being free (so a non-commercial app). Rather than a special deal I figure that this passed under the same rule that other noncommercial apps like RedReader did.

Narwhal 2 will charge a subscription to cover the API fees, including top up fees if you go over some limit, suggesting this is the normal reddit API pricing. I think developers of like Apollo couldn't do this because they had preexisting annual subscriptions. I guess Narwhal didn't have anything like this.

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Your understanding is correct, but reddit did announce exemptions for noncommercial apps and accessibility apps (without defining the latter term). IIUC reddit said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be lunprofitable while third party apps are profitable."

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Agreed. I just tried to state what they said - in my defense i never said that what they said made sense because as you just said it doesn't really make sense.

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Yup. Count myself as one of the eye rollers.

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Ah possible. Maybe Narwhal 1 was still able to get an exemption under this rule (because reddit never defined what an accessibility app was) and is just keeping mum about or downplaying the accessibility angle.

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Wish I could participate in that. It's too late for me, sadly, I already did a mass delete.

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Which subs in particular?

The largest ones like r/pics are still protesting iirc (protest engagement seeming to bring in less ad revenue than normal traffic) and some large ones like r/Minecraft have shutdown. (Someone else made a good point about the biggest subs not having particular tribes and thus the mods are theoretically easier to replace than a smaller knit community - but the ones currently in charge are still trying.)

Engaging over protest content seems to still be hurting reddit where it counts. Some subs have gone completely to normal (and this is what reddit is trying to promote on r/all) but it seems not enough.

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. We will see, however, if their moderation can still keep up after the 1st tho.

That's exactly it, I think. Outlook: Doubtful

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"the amount of time people spent on the Reddit website by close to 16% between June 12 and 13" - what does that mean?

In the article, the full sentence is,

That "blackout" movement, which briefly caused Reddit to go down, dropped daily traffic by about 7% and the amount of time people spent on the Reddit website by close to 16% between June 12 and 13, according to the data shared by web traffic analysis firm Similarweb.

So basically the amount of time people spent on reddit dropped 16% between June 12 and June 13.

"Web traffic of the platform also declined to about 52 million" - 52 million ?

Yeah that could be worded better. No units. Resumably it's about the number of visits.

Again, the full sentence is,

Web traffic of the platform also declined to about 52 million on June 13, compared with averaging nearly 56 million in the days prior.

So a 4 million drop in number of visits.

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So the metrics that reddit controls are showing that things are going down. How bad must things be that even reddit can't hide it from their metrics now?

If we could truly measure good vs shallow engagement, I wonder how much worse these numbers would be.

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Thank you for your service!

Google thinks its new Perspectives tab will finally get you to stop adding 'Reddit' to searches (www.androidpolice.com)

While the technology shows promise, early testers have found that it falls short of a well-known search trick: adding "reddit" to the end of queries. Instead of directing readers to sites targeting SEO traffic, this straightforward technique draws on the knowledge of Reddit's community to provide actual help from forum...

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Exactly! The protesters are winning. The protest didn't fizz out, it simply evolved.

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