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Leave Texas and other Draconian states and risk getting pulled over for driving pregnant? Nope, just have the pills mailed from California. (www.cbsnews.com)

California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Wednesday that aims to stop other states from prosecuting doctors and pharmacists who mail abortion pills to patients in places where the procedure is banned. California already has a law protecting doctors who provide abortions from out-of-state judgments.

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The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is "engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion."

Are ... are they trying to say CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to people who didn't ask for them? What does this statement mean? Maybe what they meant was something like: "We do not believe women have a basic right to control their body, whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in."

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But .. they don't mail the pills randomly. A person in the state where it is outlawed is requesting something from a state where it is not.

I don't see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.

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I understand, that's why I was trying to translate their statement into reality-based words. I thought you were defending their position based on your response.

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Texas church defies government crackdown by blessing drag queens (www.lgbtqnation.com)

The Cathedral of Hope — an LGBTQ±affirming United Church of Christ in Dallas, Texas — has made a concerted effort to defend the queer community from “persecution,” as the state government targets drag queens and transgender people....

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Yes, many people are raised to have pride in the town, city, state, country or planet they are from. It's so common and cross-cultural that I am extremely surprised you would need an explanation by the time you're capable of writing comments on the Fediverse.

Now that we have the pedantry out of the way, how is your comment meant to be helpful or move us forward? If it's neither of those things, why are you doing it? All of this is rhetorical, of course. Just food for thought for us both.

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Did he? He flipped over some money lenders tables and he debated the religious leaders of the day. He may have disagreed with them but I challenge you (and I'm an atheist, I have no real horse in the race about supposedly divine beings) to find a place in the bible where jesus was described as hating anyone.

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Cite the whole passages, friend. If you're going to argue your point, bring the receipts and let people discuss. You're making the claims...

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Thank you for citing the passages, but I similarly to the other commenter disagree that he is saying he hates them rather than their actions.

The word hate isn't in there. I might call a gang a "brood of vipers" but that wouldn't mean I necessarily hated them.

Lastly, and for what it's worth, I'm not clear if the "Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees" are meant to be quotes of Jesus or if they are Matthew.

Still, thank you for sharing something specific and not just hand waving.

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It isn't my holy book. I read enough as a child to figure out it wasn't a divinely inspired work.

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I'd be interested if you could share the original text, what you've shared is a translation. I don't read Sanskrit or Aramaic so I am not sure I'd be super useful, but I imagine other people might be able to help.

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You seem very confident in a lot of what is written in a very old translation of a hodpdge of work.

You are drawing a conclusion I do not from the same text.

It seems odd to me that a divinely inspired work could be so confusing or open to interpretation.

And given so very many passages where Jesus calls for love, why do you spend so much time justifying your interpretation that says Jesus hated a particular group?

There may be food for thought here for both of us.

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I made no value judgement on this. I just pointed out this is common and it is surprising if someone doesn't understand it.

You may not agree with it, but you understand it exists and that it is often tied to how someone is raised.

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Since it seems we are covering personal opinions, I think this is like all pride: sometimes it can be good and sometimes it can be toxic, often depending on who the person feeling prideful is.

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I think this has a lot to do with the horses we have bred.

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