Wow, Reddit is not joking around when it comes speedrunning enshittification. I think it’s going to be very tough for other platforms to match these moves.
Exactly this. Looking at the top response it details it's hard due to a ton of costs like operating costs and hosting costs and stuff, but with federation these costs can be spread around so that it's more manageable for each individual instance (as content doesn't need to be viewed from the original instance but gets spread around).
Some users wonder if the dev will be charged for having it still up, others argue Reddit can't charge him without having signed a contract. Everyone is confused as to why the API change hasn't made it inoperable....
Little late to the game on this one but I did finally get my words to reflect how and why I feel I do about this situation, I commented it recently on another post but I'm gonna drop it here again as I hope it can add to this discussion.
I quit when rif went down. I've never used an official app, desktop site, mobile site etc. Rif was Reddit to me for 10 years. Maybe leaving as a collective will make some difference, maybe not, but I'm going to start being more firm on how much I'll let companies try to push me around expecting me to just take it. They built it on our backs, then just took it away so a literal select few can cash in, when they are already filthy rich and had other options.
I've been explaining it to others as if you broke your phone. Now it's frustrating getting used to a new phone, but it has lots of new features you never even thought of that make up for the inconveniences. Sure I could go back to my old phone, it's comfortable to use, but the screen is broken and it cuts me now and again, and over time it'll cut me more often. I'd rather get used to the new phone.
This past year I've dealt with food going up, gas, utilities, rent, hell cigarettes and even beer, my fishing license went up. Every single nook and cranny they can pull a cent from you they will.
I'm done choosing to let them. If they want my data, my attention, my content, they can pull it from my cold dead hands damnit.
It's also a wake up call to those who created content and did tons of free moderating for no gain other than personal prestige ... it is making us all realize that whenever we put in extra effort into a social media website that is privately owned - we create the content and reason for the sites existence but we don't financially benefit from it, someone else does who did no work to create any of it other than to claim ownership over everything.
It's the same old story from a thousand years ago or even the arguments of worker rights from the 1800s ... we create the means of production but we receive no benefit from our work
There’s shitloads of secret communities everywhere. Discord is particularly popular. The reason they exist is that average people are only averagely intelligent and averagely interested in most topics, so if you want a higher level of content than average, you have to go where they can’t find you.
When a dance club is cool, nobody knows about it. When everyone finds out about it, those cool people go somewhere else. Being cool, itself, implies being something different enough from normal to necessitate its own word to differentiate it. Think hipster.
Average people made McDonalds the worlds most successful restaurant. Not everybody wants to live on big macs though. But on the internet, where the users control the content, they find your cool burger place and accidentally turn it into a McDonalds because they don’t know the difference.
In my experience, most people outgrow the secret clubs phase eventually. But I’m sure not everyone does. Who doesn’t like feeling special, no matter how unjustified it is?
I can state one secret community that’s been inactive since 2015.
TheTrumanPlan
Every 6 or so months a random redditor was picked and the whole subreddit would set up scenarios to involve the Truman.
One example was when they made a whole subreddit for a band one of them liked. Once they found out the Truman joined, the subreddit was immediately privated.
They then began messing with him by
1: Pretending the sub got sponsored by a Korean ship company
2: make the Truman think there was an song from the band that they all loved but didn’t exist.
3: Fake an AMA with a band member from the band and then have them mention the fake song
4: Have that Korean shipping company post that the AMA was fake and state they are not sponsoring the subreddit anymore.
5: Not noticing that they were slowly fading in Jim Carrey’s face into the sidebar image for weeks and then telling the subreddit he was getting a tattoo of it. They all freaked out when they got told he got the tattoo I think lol.
That was all just from the first Truman I think. There were 7 more after that.
Here are the full megathreads from back then over the first two people picked. imgur.com/a/oHmC1NW
First...Kbin's UI is IIRC currently in its alpha state. This isn't the finished product. Secondly, the UI is setup in the manner old internet forums used to be organized, with some additional tweeks to prioritize boosted and upvoted topics. Finally, this UI may not emulate Reddit in its final upgrade because it's a different kind of social platform.
I'd just ask people to be patient. There has been a huge influx of users to kbin, and lemmy over the course of the past month and the people behind the scenes have been working tirelessly just to keep up with user/server demand.
Since Relay is still working right now I check back once or twice a day.
After being on Kbin for the last couple weeks, it's amazing to me how shitty and toxic Reddit feels in comparison now. I'm basically only going there to check a couple niche subs, then bounce.
I'm also only commenting to suggest people check out Lemmy/Kbin, haha.
I’m petty sure (and hope) that Reddit will slowly die. If a s% of the users creating content that are not bots move to Lemmy of kbin, it’s game over for them eventually.
The only thing that’s quite sad is the amount of information you can find for an insane amount of problems. I hope that everything will get archived somehow.
HE will not concede - it's jut not in his nature. There is a remote chance that he could be forcibly evicted by those that he must report to, but it would take a sudden and rather dramatic drop in the quality of content (hahaha I can't even say that with a straight face) amount of money they receive from advertising to make that happen. Thus that is unlikely to happen either.
In any case, does it matter? Now that we've all woken up from the spell - the illusion that things could be both "easy" and free while still being controlled by a for-profit company, just like with wikipedia but without the hassle of it needing donations to continue going forward - why would we ever want to go back, regardless?
Honestly, nobody even looks at other people's Karma. I didn't care much about it. Did people really care so much baout Karma that they mourn about it here, or miss it, or used to farm it?...
Fake internet points. Karma. Whatever you call it… does Lemmy have the equivalent? There is an undeniable motivator in trying to earn more karma as a badge of honor....
Any form of "Karma" is going to be a net negative, reddit showed that just fine.
It was supposed to be a positive thing. Being as it's calculated through up/downvotes, and up/downvotes being meant as a representation of how relevant someone's post/comment is, the user's Karma would be an indication of how relevant their content and additions to the discussions are.
Of course, back in the real world, everyone just went and used karma to say if they liked/disliked a thing, so rather than Karma being a metric of relevance/helpfulness, it was more often than not a metric of how many useless fucking memes were posted.
People engage easier with rapid-consumption content like memes/images, or quick quips, etc. They don't have to take time to actually read reasoned discussion, and so someone focussing on the low-quality, low-effort crap will always end up winning when it comes to Karma, vs someone who takes out the time to actually add something of value.
Karma is the reason why huge swaths of reddit are full of low-effort garbage, and it needs to die as an idea.
It was a well intentioned idea that didn't work. Best not to repeat it again here imho.
I just wanted to leave this here (www.reddit.com)
Yep, this is what the future of awards on Reddit looks like
Reddit is ending Reddit Gold and users are furious (mashable.com)
The website has been knocking it out of the park for popular decisions lately /s...
People in /r/redditalternatives are talking about a "Reddit 2.0" What website would fill that role? (kbin.social)
On Reddit at reddit.com/r/redditalternatives, people are talking about a "Reddit 2.0." What do you suggest?
3rd party app for Reddit, Boost, is still functioning well after July 1st (www.reddit.com)
Some users wonder if the dev will be charged for having it still up, others argue Reddit can't charge him without having signed a contract. Everyone is confused as to why the API change hasn't made it inoperable....
now that i don't have a reddit account, i guess i can tell you guys about secret communities
someone on reddit made some secret subreddits for certain acievements:...
They finally did it: Reddit made it impossible for blind Redditors to moderate their own sub - r/Blind (libreddit.domain.glass)
Kbin Familiarity - a theme i made to replicate old reddit on kbin! (kbin.social)
https://tanza.hubza.co.uk/kbinfamiliarity.png...
I was so hopeful that Reddit might see reason, but at this point, pigboy can take reddit and stuff it up his spez
This is honestly probably for the best. It’s a really bad idea that we’ve let reddit monopolize niche knowledge
So IAMA is practically dead... (www.reddit.com)
For those that dont want to look at the link:...
Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?
Honestly, nobody even looks at other people's Karma. I didn't care much about it. Did people really care so much baout Karma that they mourn about it here, or miss it, or used to farm it?...
Karma - does Lemmy have it?
Fake internet points. Karma. Whatever you call it… does Lemmy have the equivalent? There is an undeniable motivator in trying to earn more karma as a badge of honor....