cypherpunks

cypherpunks, 1 year ago

please edit this post to remove the incorrect claim that this is open source, as it is clearly not.

cypherpunks, 1 year ago

it is open source. Stop gatekeeping the term

i guess you didn’t click the link in my comment? here is another, with a list of governments and other entities who all agree about the definition: opensource.org/authority/

cypherpunks, 1 year ago

I can understand why someone would say open source

I can understand why too: it’s either because they were not aware of the widely agreed-upon definition of the term, or because they’re being disingenuous. I’m assuming it was the former; whether OP edits the post will reveal if it was actually the latter.

cypherpunks, 1 year ago

It isn’t about the list of approved licenses, it’s about the criteria for being added to the list. New licenses regularly meet the definition. This license clearly does not.

cypherpunks, 1 year ago

since you copy+pasted this wall of confused text to me in 3 different places I guess I’ll reply here too, in the not-deleted thread: opensource.org/authority/ (this is not even a controversial topic)

cypherpunks, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago)

there is no single universally agreed upon definition

There is an overwhelmingly agreed-upon definition. Look at who agrees with it: opensource.org/authority/

And who doesn’t agree? Historically, a few of the giant software companies who were threatened by the free software movement thought that “open source” was a way for them to talk the talk without walking the walk. However, years ago, even they all eventually agreed about OSI’s definition and today they use terms like source-available software for their products that don’t meet it.

Today it is only misinformed people like yourself, and grifters trying to profit off of the positive perception of the term. I’m assuming Louis Rossman is in the former category too; we’ll see in the near future if he acknowledges that the FUTO license is not open source and/or relicenses the project under an open source license.

there are over 80 variations of open source licenses all with different term and conditions. Some are more permissive, some less so. Yet they can all be considered a variation of open source, though I’m anticipating you wouldn’t agree?

There are many open source licenses, and many non-open-source licenses. there is a list of licenses which OSI has analyzed and found to meet their definition; licenses which aren’t on that list can be open source too… but to see if they are, you would need to read the license and the definition.

Have you read The Open Source Definition? I’m assuming not.

I can’t understand why you are acting like the definition police here, it seems very pedantic tbh.

It’s because (1) FUTO are deceiving their customers by claiming that their product is something which it isn’t, and (2) they’re harming the free and open source software movements by telling people that terms mean things contrary to what they actually mean.