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Masimatutu, to memes
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h/t to @StefanThinks

intensely_human,

I read the chain of tweets. I must have missed the “Hitler was right” comment?

intensely_human,

See? You just totally abdicated any responsibility to allow others to speak. Why would you be so concerned with making sure it’s only government which has that responsibility, if you didn’t hate free speech?

intensely_human,

Oh look a leftist using sexual imagery as an insult. What a surprise.

intensely_human,

Uh yes actually if you physically strike a person when they say something you find “pathetic”, or any other adjective, you are in fact against free speech.

intensely_human,

Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences.

Of course it is. What on earth could “free speech” possibly mean if not “you won’t be punished for what you say”?

What do you think free speech is, other than a commitment to refrain from punishing people for speaking?

intensely_human,

Only if you definite it to be limited to there. Free speech or the lack thereof is a condition of existence for a group of people.

If you consider the US constitution, the rule government must adhere to is to refrain from interfering with free speech.

intensely_human,

If I remember correctly, the Gizmodo story on this thing had a link directly to Musk’s tweet, and from there you can see the conversation he was responding to.

intensely_human,

Negative consequences deliberately chosen to discourage others from speaking up is called punishment.

intensely_human,

Yes, it is. It is natural to want to try and shut people up. Resisting the urge to manipulate and control others is work. We all have a responsibility toward a healthy society.

That’s why it’s prosocial when someone steps in for a person who’s being shouted down and puts his own skin on the line to say “let him talk”.

The fact you choose not to carry that burden doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

intensely_human,

There’s nothing saying I HAVE to listen to someone spewing hate and misinformation

Except for the concept of being open minded. The ethical imperative to face new information that’s not easy to process, so that you can respond to it instead of being blindsided by it.

Free speech is a responsibility held by all members of society, to maintain those channels of communication.

Just like a good general has a responsibility to hear emissaries of his enemy, no matter how bitterly hated that enemy is. There’s nothing that says he HAS to listen to that emissary … other than his responsibility to his troops.

intensely_human,

Responsibility can only be taken, not given. So yeah, if you say that’s not your responsibility, then it’s not your responsibility. But choosing not to adopt that responsibility does indeed make you a hater of free speech.

intensely_human,

I’m just curious if I can still reply, when you’ve blocked me.

intensely_human,

I probably won’t. I don’t even know who you are.

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