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A little bit of neuroscience and a little bit of computing

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Yes you can follow users on kbin, which you can’t do on lemmy, and this applies to both users on mastodon/mblogs and lemmy/kbin.

However, from what I can gather, kbin is still community/magazine focused. For instance, I don’t think you can get a feed of just the posts of those that you follow, as you would on mastodon. You can select the subscribed channel and then look microblogs, which can get you close, but is really a view of all the posts from the people you follow and that have the hashtags for all of the magazines you follow (I think). THe important bit here being that kbin puts posts form mastodon/mblogs into magazines based on hashtags, where each magazine can defined what hashtags it will “scoop up”. And so “subscribed microblogs” includes all of those posts tagged with hashtags scooped up by the communities/magazines you follow.

I have no idea what kbin’s road map is for this, but for me personally, who has a mastodon account on an instance I’m rather happy with, as well as this lemmy account, it doesn’t offer something that would prompt me to migrate as a user.

One thing I’m probably missing here is whether one can more easily post to both communities/magazines and one’s mastodon followers from kbin. I don’t know enough about whether that is so and why and how far lemmy would be from achieving the same, but at this point in the fediverse’s development, it’s a not insignificant factor, as, IMO, so many are on mastodon and other microblog platforms that bridging that gap is vital to creating a sustainable and healthy ecosystem of platforms on the fediverse.

maegul,
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A working link: alexandrite.app

Also vger.app for mobile.

If you’re on lemmy.world, they’ve put vger natively on the instance at m.lemmy.world.

maegul,
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On lemmy the default is Active, which basically boosts any post that still has some recent chatter going on but is otherwise “stale”. In the settings though you can change the default sort. I’ve gone with Hot, which is I think the default sort on kbin too.

Can you change the default sort on kbin? I could work how to.

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Hmmm … it seems fine to me. I’d heard it was broken before though.

In what way is it broken?

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Ah … right … yea I’ve seen that happen occasionally … I had actually presumed that something had been changed with that post, perhaps by an admin or something cleaning stuff up, and that triggered a new timestamp for the post.

Maybe still a bug. I’ll keep track now of when it happens as it might help sort it out.

But still, that’s rarely the case for me. Just went down a fair way in my feed now and there wasn’t a single occurrence of it. Could it be particular communities causing it, maybe from instances on older software?

Otherwise though, Hot seems to do what I’d want. Combine with a bit of New or Top for an appropriate time window and I’m all good.

For comments, Hot/New/Top all do what I’d want too.

maegul,
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Yea posting from mastodon to lemmy is a nice way to join the two platforms actually.

I keep encouraging mastodon users to do it more, as they don’t have any groups and hashtags and not great IMO.

For those interested, I’ve written a little demo of doing so from mastodon, with comments/replies that provide links to the resulting lemmy post: hachyderm.io/@maegul/110483509521476095. If you think it’s helpful, feel free to share it around to anyone else you know that might be interested in posting to lemmy from mastodon.

maegul,
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Not cheating at all! It should be happening more IMO!

  • First, there’s a lot of parallel chatter and interests kept separate because people are on different platforms.
  • Second, bringing down the boundaries between instances and platforms (so that don’t all have to use screenshots all the time) is what the fediverse is about)
  • Third, using existing communities and platforms to activate new communities and platforms is supposed to a super power of the fediverse, as it makes it easier and easier to kickstart new things as the fediverse grows
  • Fourth, and getting back to the second above, the fediverse’s “killer app”, IMO, is the eventual creation of a diversity of communities and platforms that interoperate in a useful, flexible and engaging way for the user.

At the moment, I’m actually frustrated at the lack of cross platform engagement between lemmy/kbin and mastodon. A big part of it, IMO, is the simplicity of mastodon’s UI and how integrating with any other platform with a more sophisticated UI becomes difficult. Right now, for instance, mastodon has no nice way to deal with a community/magazine or a post with multiple threads of comments beneath it, as all mastodon does is see everything as a flattened stream of posts in reverse chronological order.

Right now, posting from mastodon to a community is the only way to bring these worlds together that works for users of both platforms, except for the user making the post, which is a problem.

maegul,
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Oh yea … that character limit man … once you have a decent one (>2000) you can’t go back!!

I’ve actually though of suggesting to some communities that do regular posts like star trek’s episode threads to post them from a mastodon account just to get some engagement.

It’d be cool if there was some bot that made this easier.

maegul,
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Totally with you.

Thanks for the chat … and Awesome!

maegul,
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Links to Communities or Instances?

FWIW, just checked mine and no problems (and I’m subscribed to plenty of communities).

maegul,
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Yep, that looks bad (obviously). I just went to the science community, sorted by Hot, and yea similar things appear towards the bottom of the feed.

Seems like the sort of thing that would be a minor and fixable bug. I don’t have time to chase down github issues right now, but I’ll try checking older communities to spot these occurrences. Naively I’d guess something like dates or vote-scored being truncated badly or something.

Thanks!!

maegul,
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OK, I couldn’t help myself, and checked GItHub. Seems the issue may have been fixed hours ago. Don’t know when the new version will ship though.

Seems the issue may been to do with the process that updates the ranks of posts not being able to catch up to older posts, and so they show up with out of date ranks/scores. That process has been optimised, apparently, and should have no problem keeping up with all of the posts.

github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3617

maegul,
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Yea emoji reactions are fun. Calckey has them and it works well.

maegul,
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Haha yep.

And beehaw too. Wonder how many others.

maegul,
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I don’t that’s entirely fair or true across the board. I haven’t received a ton of downvotes or anything, but realised that I didn’t know what to do with the downvote and that some were clearly using downvotes where I don’t think I would have.

For my, it was more sympathetic. I was thinking about people who do get downvoted and whether I’m ok with that.

maegul,
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Sooo … if this is sarcasm I’m not sure I quite get it? People shouldn’t be so sensitive about downvotes and the like?

maegul,
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The answer to such questions is almost always “Because someone hasn’t done it yet”.

As others have mentioned, this platform has grown drastically over the past month and so the devs are somewhat preoccupied with what they’ve prioritised for the platform as a whole. This feature though is on the radar, as others have said.

A quick fix that I actually think would help be just in the UI, where the user can group the communities they’re subscribed to into what ever groups they like, so that it becomes easier to browse through communities individually by topic.

maegul,
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Worth acknowledging the nice homage to Apollo in that app name too.

Have you ever had a hyper realistic dream that you still remember after years?

I had a dream I was on a plane. A totally normal flight. Going in for a landing when things went wrong at the last minute. I swear I could feel the heat of the flames as I saw them coming through the fuselage as the plane is breaking up around me. I woke up on my feet beside my bed sweating. I’ve never had a dream like that...

maegul,
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Totally. A few actually. Some of them I had when I was very young such that the dreams themselves are really the only memories I have of the time. All nightmares. One of my newly born little brother in a pram on top of a hill being let go and me running to try to catch him before he hits a car. It was on a real hill that I occasionally see if I’m around that area again, but was so realistic that it’s my only/best memory of that hill.

Another was basically a zombie apocalypse and me being around while my dad turns (I must have seen some zombie film on TV or something). Another being chased by apes and spiders with the dream ending with me sinking under water and spiders jumping in the water and knowing how to swim downward to get me (eeek).

Suggestions for activism campaigns on Lemmy and kbin? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

I’m working on an activism campaign kicking off next week opposing some bad internet bills in the US – here’s the kbin magazine I just set up, and I might set up a Lemmy community as well if that makes sense. Once things get going, we’ll be sharing links including information and actions people can take....

maegul,
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copacetic

New word for me (looked it up). Is that regional at all (like a US thing)?

maegul,
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Also, hashtags in kbin posts are recognised by mastodon/mblogs? At the moment, they’re not from lemmy (don’t know why). So posting out from kbin might also help in getting traction with the mastodon/mblog crowd.

One problem lemmy/kbin have at the moment for activism, is that smaller communities can get drowned out in the feed. You can of course sort by “New”, or “Hot” but might miss things, unless you’re actively checking the specific community. Same problem with mblogs too I guess.

Something interesting in the works in this regard is a Lemmy pull request to add “Best” as a feed sorting option, which ranks posts relative to their communities, and therefore should make communities equal on your feed. (See Pull Request). It isn’t finished yet but might not be far away.

maegul,
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Hmmm. Not so sure.

Merrion-Webster online:

Theories about the origin of copacetic abound, but the facts about the word’s history are scant: it appears to have arisen in African-American slang in the southern U.S., possibly as early as the 1880s, with earliest known evidence of it in print dating only to 1919.

Dictionary.com

An Americanism first recorded in 1915–20; of obscure origin;

Wiktionary

Stephen Goranson says "there is good reason to think that Irving Bacheller invented the word [with spelling “copasetic”] for a fictional character with a private vocabulary in his best-selling and later-serialized 1919 book about Abraham Lincoln in Illinois, A Man for the Ages, and its currency increased by use in the 1920 song “At the New Jump Steady Ball”.[1] Alternatively, it has been speculated that it may have originated among African Americans in the Southern US in the late 19th or early 20th century, perhaps specifically in the jargon of Bill “Bojangles” Robinson, who certainly helped popularize it in any case.

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Wow. I’m kinda impressed that that’s already in the works.

I’m rather pleased with how many developers have gotten involved with the project. Looks like the work might not be finished yet on this feature, but it’s definitely on its way!

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Not to be a bully to some of these new projects, who people have I’m sure worked hard on, but a few lemmy instances are big enough that they could probably count as their own “Reddits” and have distinct enough “personalities” for this list …

beehaw.org

lemmynsfw.com

feddit.de

lemmy.blahaj.zone

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