onlinepersona

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onlinepersona,

I’m just happy there’s a rust DE being written in slint. KDE is nice and all, but it’s all C++. No way am I touching that trainwreck of a language again.

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onlinepersona,

I’m confused. Slint says it’s working with System76?

A great start to the week - @pop_os_official will collaborate with us to offer Slint as an alternative toolkit for application development on Cosmic Desktop.

onlinepersona,

Tell me you know nothing about computers without telling me you know nothing about computers.

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onlinepersona,

That’s a good question that I don’t have an answer to as I have no legal training. I’m assuming if you can sign a contract online where the legal text is behind a link and the main offer is what you see… maybe? Technically, it wouldn’t be too difficult to simply erase any mention of a license in a pre-cleaning phase of the data, but I don’t know if the act itself would be an even bigger indication of guilt. There would be no excuse like “oops, I just copied this data into my training set, teehee”. But as I said, not a legal expert.

If there are copyright experts that want to weigh in, I’d be interested to hear their opinion. Given that there are running, unanswered cases (most notably again Microsoft’s Copilot), and Japan on the verge of drafting into law that AI training data can ignore copyright, it’s possible even legal experts would have a hard time answer the question.

I’m putting them here just in case. Only costs me a line carriage and a Ctrl+V.

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onlinepersona,

😂 at least I’m not pretending I know anything about copyright

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onlinepersona,

But if it doesn’t make any difference legally as a deterrent, then I wouldn’t bother.

Once that’s determined, then yeah, I won’t bother either. Until then though… CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

onlinepersona,

Move fast and break things

Bro, wayland is 15 years old

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onlinepersona,

That’s exactly what I was I saying! Wow, your reading comprehension gets five stars and a kiss on the check. Papa Wouter must be impressed!

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onlinepersona,

Go on then. Make it better, or make a better one.

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onlinepersona,

No one’s forcing you to use it. If you don’t want to, stick to X11. I’ve been testing wayland for a few months now and it’s fine. It does most of I want it to. I don’t need fancy fractional scaling, adaptive refresh rates, or whatever other fancy stuff people complain about that isn’t there. It shows my windows, allows screen-share, and… that’s it. Only thing missing for me is scriptability.

I’m not advocating for Wayland nor X11, just saying to stop shitting on devs who give a lot of free time to write opensource code that none of us have to pay for. All we have to do is be nice - maybe report bugs, maybe maybe donate if we have the means.

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onlinepersona,

Pointing out flaws is fine. Shitting on devs, is not, just like devs shitting on users isn’t.

Don’t be surprised if you attack somebody and they defend themselves.

Saying “X doesn’t work” is completely fine. Writing a rant about how opensource devs don’t think about people, yadayada. Buddy, these are people giving up their free time to write stuff. Nobody’s forcing you to use it. There are no guarantees provided, no warranties either. It’s provided as is.

The way you are is as if someone built a free house in the woods, you showed up and complained about how the door is creaky, the toilet leaky, a draft coming through the windows, and you wrote a review online disparaging the free work. Does that sound like good behavior to you?

Users can’t even add a feature request because they’re met with a storm of insults and snobbery.

How did you write the feature request? “I demand this be implemented because you’re providing a product and I’m a customer” or “It would be great if X were added for reason Y”? If it’s the latter and you were met with unkindness, of course that’s shit, no doubt.

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onlinepersona,

Is this an American thing? Haven’t had any issues with this in the EU

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onlinepersona,

Better in some ways, but it has the worst documentation of any distro I’ve seen so far. nixlang.wiki is trying to improve that

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onlinepersona,

Get on the NixOS train, loser. Arch is too easy. /s

onlinepersona, (edited )

Not entirely the same. nix is a build-tool, package manager and DSL. NixOS is the OS built on top of that. nixlang.wiki explains it

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onlinepersona,

Then the devs could be anonymous and the their repos couldn’t be taken down.

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onlinepersona,

It’s a non-commercial copyleft licence for the comment in case the case against Microsoft’s CoPilot is won.

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onlinepersona,

Just to be sure, is this a serious question or a troll?

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onlinepersona, (edited )

🙂 my bad

No, not sue me for lemmy comments. AI is trained with lots of data. The world wide web is full of publicly accessible data like our comments. However, not all publicly accessible data may be used without a license. Examples thereof are news paper articles, videos, still pictures, etc. Normally, if you want to use those commercially, consent has to be given by the license holder and a in some cases a fee has to be paid.

Microsoft Copilot is an AI model to help people write code. However, it was trained mostly on opensource code (code made publicly available) which was very often licensed. And it is done so in such a manner that commercial use is allowed with the obligation to make that commercial code publicly available too. Microsoft does not make the code for Copilot publicly accessible and uses code licensed in many, many other ways - and it does so without asking for consent.

This is often a double standard as companies that hide their code fight very hard to keep it secret and/or pursue those in court who do not get a license to use it. However, they will happily use licensed consent to their benefit without consent nor potential payment.

With some clever tricks, AIs have been duped into revealing their training data (often licensed, sometimes very private e.g addresses, birthday, health information, etc.). Lawsuits have ensued (against the AI owners like Microsoft) and are currently active with a pending verdict. Until the verdicts come, I add the license link to my comments. Who knows, maybe it will have an impact, maybe not.

Hopefully I could explain the situation in an understandable manner for you.

Have a good day.

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onlinepersona,

You’re welcome. Thank you for reading :)

onlinepersona,

Nobody knows yet 🤷 I’ll do it anyway

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onlinepersona,

I think you’re missing the point. It’s a non-commercial license. Non-commercial AI is completely fine by me. Commercial is not.

onlinepersona,

Thanks. I care very much what you think.

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onlinepersona,

“You should own what you pay for” to put it another way, I think.

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onlinepersona,

What’s up with these trans-memes surrounding linux? Are they just a loud minority?

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