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oxjox, to asklemmy in Downvotes = “I disagree” or “this is bad and you should feel bad”?
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On Reddit, up/down was intended to be used as relevant or not relevant. Then Facebook came around with the Like button and changed the standard.

Coming from the perspective of Digg, Reddit was about sharing external content and giving something an upvote was used to promote that content while a downvote was used to discourage that content from being seen. It was democratic in that the users were relied on for ranking posts without the need for moderators having to establish rules and remove things.

Then Reddit employed an algorithm and most people visit Popular and All making it a shitstorm of irrelevance. People upvote stuff they like that has absolutely no reason to be posted in a sub. Never mind everything that’s gone on with Reddit in recent months, it’s users’ inability to properly use the upvote / downvote buttons that has caused the site to become absolute trash.

Here, we have the added tool of the Star to indicate that we like something while at the same time downvoting it because it’s not relevant to the sub. The problem is that the vast majority of people don’t want to think about or put any effort into anything. At this point, anything that looks like a thumbs up is getting selected because they like it.

If you disagree with someone, you shouldn’t do anything unless you have something to say. Engage with them in conversation and express your point of view - this is “social media”. If others feel your point is relevant you should get an upvote; if you’re off topic you should get a downvote.

Reading over the other comments here, I think most people are expressing a similar perspective. It’s about rankings, not feelings.

oxjox, (edited ) to asklemmy in Why was Ronald Reagan and Nancy Reagan so bad for the American people?
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The Fairness Doctrine only applies to network television, which Fox News need not abide by.

The report by the Congressional Research Service notes that broadcast is "distinct from cable, satellite, and the Internet, which are all services for which consumers must pay.
“It does not appear that the Fairness Doctrine may be applied constitutionally to cable or satellite service providers,” it continues.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/…/6439197002/

oxjox, to piracy in Amazon and Tolkein Estate force author to destroy all copies of his work. Only pirated copies will survive.
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Everything you just said is the opposite of reality and facts. What’s going on in this sub?

There is a new work by an author using someone else’s intellectual property. That’s what’s this is about. That’s how they were sued.

Copyright laws specifically promote new ideas by punishing those who re-use existing ideas.

You can profit from others’ ideas by asking permission and paying a licensing fee. This happens all the time. It’s how business is done every day.

oxjox, to piracy in Amazon and Tolkein Estate force author to destroy all copies of his work. Only pirated copies will survive.
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K. Evidently reading the room is more important than reading the article.

oxjox, to piracy in YouTube's anti-adblock rollout has finally arrived for Firefox users
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So, you won’t even click a link and glance at a platform unless it’s free (/ has ads that you can bypass with a blocker)?

Here’s the important bits…

How do the creators get paid?
Nebula profit is divided 50/50 between the creators and Standard. The creator pool is paid out based on watch time.

Who owns Nebula?
Nebula is owned and operated by Standard and the creators, with Curiosity Inc (CuriosityStream) holding a minority stake and a board seat. There are no plans to bring in additional investment.

oxjox, to piracy in YouTube's anti-adblock rollout has finally arrived for Firefox users
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That’s called nebula.tv

oxjox, (edited ) to fuck_cars in Gen Z is choosing not to drive
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Fair enough. This is a version of the chart I’ve seen and had in mind. I suppose the difference is in relation to minimum wage. https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/a5e56d42-deab-4dd0-9cca-88c1bf6d41ad.png

“We have seen that complete divorce between wages and productivity and massively increased inequality with most gains going to people at the top.”
cbsnews.com/…/minimum-wage-26-dollars-economy-pro…

“Purchasing power” is the metric I’ve been thinking about.

This decline in purchasing power means low-wage workers have to work longer hours now just to achieve the standard of living that was considered the bare minimum half a century ago.
epi.org/…/raising-the-federal-minimum-wage-to-15-…

Here specifically is the web page I’ve kept in mind when referring to productivity (and I admit that off the top of my head “the 70s” was a bit off).

In fact, had the federal minimum wage kept pace with workers’ productivity since 1968 the inflation-adjusted minimum wage would be $24 an hour.
aflcio.org/what-unions-do/…/minimum-wage

I concede that “young adults” and “low wage workers” shouldn’t be confused.

I’ve edited my previous comment. Thank you for the point.

oxjox, to fuck_cars in Gen Z is choosing not to drive
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Good info. Yeah, I’m just curious to see a clear comparison laid out. I think being able to literally visualize it would be more conducive to the ongoing conversation. Tough to trust what one cohort on the internet says about their personal experience. Seems like everyone online is broke yet increasing interest rates tell another story about the market overall.

oxjox, to fuck_cars in Gen Z is choosing not to drive
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I don’t disagree. Which is why I’d like some data.

oxjox, to fuck_cars in Gen Z is choosing not to drive
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Agreed. Moreover, I’d like some more insight in the consumer patterns of Gen Z. A pie chart would be nice including groups like eduction, healthcare, subscription services, entertainment, etc.

I have a feeling, without the data, that a lot of young people are spending way more on novelty and entertainment things than ever before while they’re complaining about not being able to afford things.

oxjox, to asklemmy in What non-SMS non-Apple app can I use to "text" my younger kid on their iPad
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I’ve only come across this with a search so I’ve never used it www.kinzoo.com/kinzoo-messenger

oxjox, to piracy in Amazon and Tolkein Estate force author to destroy all copies of his work. Only pirated copies will survive.
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It’s mind boggling how anyone could possibly consider otherwise. Aside from your own life, there’s nothing more belonging to oneself than their thoughts.

oxjox, to fuck_cars in Gen Z is choosing not to drive
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the conclusion that young adults’ personal spending habits are to blame.

At what point did I ever suggest anything close to a conclusion or blame? But since you didn’t ask, I blame Reaganomics, consumerism, and the deregulation of Wall Street. I blame the exportation of jobs for pennies and the mistreatment of workers. I blame disinterest and carelessness and I blame our value and reward of ownership over generosity. I blame “The New American Dream”.

Can’t you stop whining about being a victim for a moment and consider the implications of studying the history of economic and personal finance patterns to plan for the future? I am utterly bored of the repetitive copy/paste talking points and the whining with zero proposals for a solution other than “the boomers did it to us” and we’re all out of ideas.

Look at the real historical data. Present hard evidence and propose how the country is doomed for economic turmoil in ten to twenty years. A couple of charts and anecdotal polls aren’t going to push congress to do anything. No one cares if you can’t afford to buy a car when the economy says people are loaded with money right now. I mean, General Motors just had their best year since 2019 so they don’t care if young people aren’t buying cars. So prove them wrong. I want to prove them wrong - why don’t you?

This is what I mean by you can’t fix people’s narratives. You’re blinded by your grief. No one is saying it’s your fault. You, like the boomers before you, are so self-centered that, unless you get your faces out of your screens and fix this shit, you’ll end up being responsible for a country worse than it’s ever been (slavery aside / if it makes it through this election cycle). I’m absolutely terrified for future generations.

I really don’t get it. I don’t get all the stories and anecdotes and complaining yet no one has provided a full story of the reality of personal finance over the decades. Maybe this does exist and I just don’t know it - it’s probably paywalled. But it seems that without it, this “discussion” exists to divide us and generate clicks and ad revenue and political and corporate control. It’s bullshit.

oxjox, (edited ) to fuck_cars in Gen Z is choosing not to drive
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I can’t fix people’s narratives. I’m asking for data to illustrate the measurable impact of the economy on people’s personal finance and leisure over the decades.

For one example, to compare 2020 to 1960, what is considered “leisure”, what does that cost, and what percentage of a person’s income is spent on it. I’m not really interested in polls where “Gen Z says they’re struggling to afford a car” because that’s subjective and relative. It’s not at all about questioning their anecdotes; I’m curious what the graph or pie chart looks like over the decades.

I think, and am asking for something to prove me right or wrong simply because I’m curious, that there’s more leisure and luxury available to all people today than ever before. And I feel pretty strongly that the culture of consumerism has grown much stronger over the past 30-50 years making everyone feel like they need to spend more than they were in the first half of the last century.

Productivity Purchasing Power in The United States peaked in the '70s late '60s. The country’s overall productivity sucks today [see below comments]. I believe the numbers show that we’re all spending more of our income than we ever have before. And for those “earning” a salary based on archaic values set decades ago, it’s certainly logical they’d be most hurt by the culture of consumerism that’s so rampant today.

Also, I’d be very interested to compare the graphs to credit card debt over time. It’s too easy to click a button on our phones now to have something charged to a card without the stress of seeing it coming directly out of our checking account. This use of technology, I think, is a real factory for younger people who haven’t grown up learning how to balance a checkbook or the need to save real cash money to make major purchases. The success of services like Mint and Acorn and Chime indicate this isn’t my imagination.

No one likes when someone says your opinion is irrelevant when they’re asking for tangible numbers. I’m well aware that the economy is harder for young adults today. I’m also well aware that most people on the internet are ultra-sensitive and lack reading comprehension. There’s a large segment of the internet that can’t be bothered to read more than headlines and watch ten second TikTok videos. I know younger people aren’t the only ones guilty of this, but I have doubts they’re not the primary culprits.

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