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People who celebrate the massacre of Jews are certainly criticizing the government.

What is the deal with Palestine and Hamas?

For mental health reasons, I had taken myself out of most political topics. But lately there seems to be a surge of talk about Palestine and Hamas (forgive me if I spelled this wrong). I do know it’s something to do with land rights, but it also seems to be so much more at the same time. I’m not trying to start any fights. I...

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Israel took over

How nicely you avoided the fact that Israel was in fact attacked. It didn’t try to conquer the other countries. On a contrary, other countries aimed to eliminate Israel. Some of them are still trying and you’re actively helping them.

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Autocratic regimes always see the neighbor democracies as a threat. This is why Russia attacked democratic Ukraine, this is why a bunch of countries attack democratic Israel.

It never was about the land, it never was about the religion.

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According to the IDF they made 15000 strikes on Gaza strip in the last month. Even if you take clearly made up number of victims from Hamas, you’ll see the efficiency of those strikes, and how Israel is trying to avoid civilian casualties.

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It’s not 15000 nukes. It’s 15000 high-precision strikes.

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Hamas definitely thinks so.

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Exactly. Hamas likes those protests so much, they’ll make sure there’s more dead children.

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Well, if the terrorist leaders ask you to do something for them, and you do exactly what they ask, but “for different reasons”, I definitely have some questions.

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I already explained in a different thread, that genocide is purposeful elimination of some nation or ethnicity. For something to be genocide you need an ethnicity and a goal to eliminate it.

Palestinian is not an ethnicity, it’s just a place where you live, like Californian. And Israel doesn’t have a goal to eliminate them. The target is Hamas, a terrorist organization.

On the contrary, the target of Hamas is elimination of all Jews, which is an ethnicity. They don’t even hide their goal, you can read their charter.

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You just repeated what I just said, adding “religious” in bold.

There are plenty of Muslims in the Israeli army, and some of them are currently fighting in Gaza for Israel. There’s nothing religious about this conflict.

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The term “nation” along with “nationalism” was invented in England in the 1600s. Before that, people didn’t know they belonged to any nation, they identified themselves with religious groups.

And again, Palestinian is not a nation, it’s just where you live. If you moved to Gaza, you’d become Palestinian.

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