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DolphLundgren, to RedditMigration in I made a tool that transfers your reddit subscriptions to lemmy, thought maybe you all might be interested

Not to steal your thunder but the wefwef web app does this also, you just paste in your profile’s multireddit url and then it gives you a clickable list and each click searches Lemmy for all similar communities and then you can sub to any that you want.

induna_crewneck,

Didn’t know that haha. My script does the same thing pretty much. Just automatically if that maybe is worth something. And I’m not after thunder, I made this mainly for myself (and to train coding) and if someone else finds it useful that’s great

DolphLundgren,

Certainly! I think it’s important that people innovate and it’s amazing when it’s helpful for others. Keep up the great work! 😀

mrecom,

Is wefwef iOS only though?

fox2263,

It’s a web app. Now called Voyager.

DuckGuy,
@DuckGuy@lemmy.zip avatar

No, Wefwef is a webapp, meaning you can use it on anything (even on desktop.) It goes by Voyager now.

risencode, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

The only privacy setting I can encourage on any social media site is don’t share private stuff about yourself and never link to your account from other accounts

csm10495, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Technical question: How would posts federate if private?

exocrinous, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

The admin of Blahaj is openly interested in exposing trans people’s alt accounts and outing them on their mains. And somehow it’s the biggest trans instance. We need a community and admin reaction in favour of defederating people who do that.

magnor,
@magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh avatar

Wait what? Do you have a source for this?

exocrinous,
LWD, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

There’s a grim tragedy in how many people in this comment section have either succumbed to defeat or actively seek to advocate against privacy.

The comments can mostly be boiled down to:

  • My data is online already, and I give up
  • Your data is online already, and you don’t deserve control over it
  • I have nothing to hide and nothing to fear (and you should too)

You will find Fediverse types are far more cynical and antagonistic to privacy than people on other platforms.

Tangent5280,

But why? Is there a compromise taken on privacy in favour of visibility and mass adoption of whatever fediverse client they’re using? I don’t understand this, especially since I also find the strongest advocates for privacy right here.

LWD,

A lot of Lemmy adopters joined with rose tinted glasses, and came with a lot of good ideas, like getting data out of the hands of big companies, making it easy to access it (as Reddit locked down APIs), etc. Which is all good, but a subset of them believe “not officially belonging to one company” is good enough. As for how your data is handled online, a subset of them believe nothing can be improved, and a subset believes it shouldn’t be improved because your data shouldn’t belong to you at all.

And Lemmy is made up of all sorts, so there’s overlap between Reddit refugees and diehard fans. That interaction is a lot more implicit here, but the friction is a lot more visible on sites like Mastodon where similar privacy discussions have been happening.

Devorlon,

I’ve not seen any of these arguments. Though it may be all downvoted to hell and back.

My main gripe with adding privacy features to Lemmy is that the whole point of Lemmy is that all data is already publicly available and for Lemmy to continue working the way it does it’ll need to remain that way. And because of that there’s nothing that can be done to stop bad actors setting up an instance and selling all the data they collect.

At least in the EU (and UK to a lesser extent) no major corporation would be able to get away with selling that data, so the spent man hours on allowing privacy settings would be wasted time.

TexMexBazooka, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

Bruh what? If you’re repeatedly making new accounts because you don’t want people reading your post history you’re doing something wrong.

mr_satan, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

What you’re describing is an issue with all of social media. While your concerns are valid, I don’t see your arguments as privacy issue. I honestly prefer post and comment history being transparent and accessible. It’s much like Reddit and this format fits much better with an open forum style of platform.

Don’t post private information and it’s a non-issue.

Also, can’t you just delete posts and comments like on Reddit?

Outtatime,
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Would still be nice to hide that information

drndramrndra,

Also, can’t you just delete posts and comments like on Reddit?

Not really AFAIK. Your comment is spread across many instances, and they’re not required to follow your deletion request.

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

Oh, I see

LWD,

It’s no required, but if a server is misbehaving, people could notice and those servers could be defederated. By default, deletions are federated.

bamboo,

Also, can’t you just delete posts and comments like on Reddit?

Nothing ever dies on the Internet. With the federated nature of Lemmy, it’s possible for deletes to not sync across instances, especially if there’s defederation that happens.

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

Makes sense, when I think about it

Zerush, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

What irritates me many times when I enter Lemmy is that instead of my Nick at the top right, someone else’s Nickname appears for a moment, before changing it to mine. This is a sign of an open account sharing channel, which is quite serious and should be fixed quickly. Security at Lemmy is apparently non-existent.

Sal,
@Sal@mander.xyz avatar

Do you see a random nickname from a stranger, or a nickname of an account that was previously logged into using the same computer?

What is an open account sharing channel?

Zerush, (edited )
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

It occurres sometimes, I see a random nick from strangers. It means that my account obviously is públic and even shared. I will be attentive and I will try to take a screenshot, before the nickname changes to mine while Lemmy loads.

Sal,
@Sal@mander.xyz avatar

I will also pay close attention and see if I can catch that happening.

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not easy to catch, because it’s only a moment when Lemmy loads and just sometimes. For now I always have my eyes to the top right corner when I enter Lemmy.

leraje, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control
@leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

To me, it’s an issue of personal responsibility.

Lemmy is, like a lot of Fediverse platforms, about as private as it can be. There’s no trackers, you’re not forced to use real names or any other identifying information, no adverts follow you from site to site, no browser fingerprinting and no instance owners are trying to sell your data.

Beyond that, what you choose to say on Lemmy is your responsibility and yours alone.

pl_woah, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

The lemmy devs would probably take something sensible like that and flat out shoot it down because they think they know better.

Omega_Haxors, (edited ) to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

I personally enjoy that this sort of information is public, it keeps people honest and gives a tool to use against bad faith actors. People lie. Besides, it’s not like anyone’s forcing you to post personal information online. Some level of responsibility needs to be put on the user.

toastal, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

If Lemmy cared about privacy, contributing source code & opening tickets would not require opening accounts with a for-profit, US-based, closed, prorietary service owned by a publicly-traded megacorporation that has shareholders to appease & a history (as well as current) record of EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish).

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

that also uses your code for their AI.

drndramrndra, (edited )

Copilot gets trained on Dessalines’ essays and becomes a Marxist

toastal,

I mean it took the code production of from workers for the Commons, packaged it up, & sold it back to the workers—often in violation of the license if not the spirit of free, ethical, or similar software. All AI generations should be CC0 / 0BSD licensed.

toastal,

Choosing proprietary tools and services for your free software project ultimately sends a message to downstream developers and users of your project that freedom of all users—developers included—is not a priority.

—Matt Lee, www.linuxjournal.com/…/opinion-github-vs-gitlab

capital, to selfhosted in Sounds like Haier is opening the door!

Just set a rate limit? This could have been a code change and a blog post.

Mugmoor,
@Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

But then how would they get all the tech blogs to write about them?

chicken, to privacy in Privacy Concerns on Lemmy: A Call for More User Control

I remember a little while ago a thread with someone from kbin gloating that they could see what everyone was voting, and accusing the people upvoting comments they disagreed with of being bigots in a vaguely threatening way obviously intended to produce a chilling effect, and people found this surprising because that information is not public on most instances.

I basically agree with the people saying open info is just the nature of posting on a public forum and of federation, but there could be improvements, even just in awareness of what is and isn’t private.

bamboo,

This is a great point because in the Lemmy UI, this information isn’t shown, and you can’t even list out all posts you’ve upvoted. As most of us coming from Reddit, we’re used to upvotes being private, and probably assume it’s the same. I understand the technical reasons for having the information public, but it is not clear from a user perspective that it’s public.

chicken, (edited )

What’s extra confusing is that I’ve seen people asking about how to get this information from the API, with the answer being that you can’t (I guess to protect privacy?). It’s only accessible to federated servers, but then those can do what they want with it including publishing it to everyone.

possiblylinux127, to selfhosted in Sounds like Haier is opening the door!

Honestly they should find away to make it work with HA instead of the companies servers.

BearOfaTime,

Yep.

Fuck Haier, espscially at this point.

Had they tried working with him furst, they’d have a little moral ground to stand on.

Now the lives are off. How many forks are there if his git repo now? It was a thousand yesterday.

possiblylinux127,

I don’t know about you but I want the companies to take self hosted and Foss solutions seriously. The fact that they are wanting to work with him is a major step in the right direction. It would be dumb to discourage companies from supporting foss.

Darkassassin07, (edited )
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Are they supporting FOSS, or looking to buy out the project to make it a closed in-house solution and avoid the bad publicity they created this last week?

NegativeInf,

If they buy it, it’s FOSS bro. Fork it. But until that point, diplomatic approaches may be more effective.

possiblylinux127,

Well I think the worst thing that could happen is we just fork it and go on with our lives.

Why would they want a new in house solution? They already have one but home assistant probably is going to be easier for them.

Auli,

Not really self hosted. Uses their online service to pull it into Home Assistant.

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