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rockerface, to memes in In our lifetimes 🤞

I wish there was at least half the amount of this kind of memes about Russia

empireOfLove,

Yeah but that would go against the hexbear narrative of “neo-USSR good because communism, anything western-adjacent is imperialism bad”

Nuance, or frankly any political intelligence, is not their strong suit

sharkfucker420, (edited )
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

No one on hexbear likes Russia in its current state. No one thinks it is a “neo-USSR” (lmao). Russia is not Communist and no self respecting communist would call it that. The West is imperialist and bad, the most obvious example of this being the entire global south.

Have you ever been on hexbear?

empireOfLove, (edited )

No one on hexbear likes Russia in its current state.

Meanwhile in this thread by hexbear users: “nothing Russia is doing is that bad, they should just become citizens, stop hating on russia”

For “not liking” Russia imperialism, they sure spend a lot of fucking time apologizing for Russia’s imperialism. We can hate multiple despotic shitholes at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive.

mathemachristian,

I mean the fact that you think the people of hexbear support the Russian Federation thinking its communist but then go on to say they have no nuance or political intelligence is kind of funny

ikiru,
FuckyWucky, (edited )

sure, make comparisons between Nazi Germany, Apartheid Israel and … Russia

Are Ukrainians being crammed into a strip being bombed constantly without food or water? Russia despite being reactionary in many ways (eg LGBTQ rights) is relatively tolerant towards religious and ethnic minorities.

Such malicious comparison. Fuck you.

Valmond,

Oh no, hexbear is leaking again.

Go back to your dictator-loving friends and stay there.

520, (edited )

Oh fuck off. Russia is committing cultural genocide and is constantly bombing civilian targets. Russia thinks nothing of bombing hospitals or other civilian infrastructure. The only reason the Ukrainians are not also being crammed into a strip is because Russia's military hasn't been capable of doing that.

Edit: clarity

rockerface,

Actually, yes, Ukrainians that happened to live in the east of Ukraine are in fact stuck in a literal war zone without feasible way to live… unless they accept Russian “citizenship”, that is

FuckyWucky, (edited )

they can get to Europe because they are white enough. Its not an open air prison in the same way Gaza is.

Russian bombing campaign is nothing like Gaza. Gazans can’t obtain Israeli citizenship, Palestinian passports aren’t widely recognized. Meanwhile both Ukrainian and Russian passports are internationally recognized.

unless they accept Russian “citizenship”, that is

A citizenship is a citizenship. No need for quotes, Russian citizens can get Russian passports, get access to Russian benefits and travel.

Stop making silly comparisons.

The only people who can be compared to the situation Palestinians are in right now are Rohingya Muslims.

rockerface,

No shit, nothing is the same way Gaza is. Doesn’t make it a non-issue. And “citizenship” deserves quotes if it’s enforced by an invading military.

Also, good luck getting to anywhere, when all airports and major roads leading out of the occupied territory are blocked and/or destroyed.

culpritus,
@culpritus@hexbear.net avatar

Ukrainian militias have been shelling Donbas for about 8 years before 2022.

SilentStorms,

If you think the Western public is more anti-Isreal than rabidly anti-Russia, I don’t know what to tell you.

Disclaimer: I think they’re both fucking awful. Isreal is objectively worse though.

rockerface,

Not the public, just this community. Although it could be confirmation bias on my side

SilentStorms,

Its also just what’s in the news. If Lemmy was big in March 2022, we would likely be flooded with them.

RamrodBaguette,

This was about settler-colonial states in particular. Not to say I wouldn’t love to see the Bourgeois Russian state go through another 7-11-1917.

russia-cool

USSR

rockerface,

That’s fair. Wasn’t trying to take a jab at you in particular, if it came off that way, I’m sorry

randomname01, to memes in In our lifetimes 🤞

Leaving everything else aside, South Africa went from having one of the worst flags in the world to having one of the best.

flamingos, (edited ) to memes in In our lifetimes 🤞

What’s the flag south of the Confederate one? I can’t find it on here.

Edit: Never mind, it’s Rhodesia

HumanBehaviorByBjork, to memes in In our lifetimes 🤞
@HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net avatar

hm, i wonder why there’s so many union jacks here?

RamrodBaguette, (edited )

Me looking at virtually any problem stemming from the 19th and 20th Centuries:

ukkk

https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/44f552e4-e246-49f9-83bf-095b2d36be5c.gif

MasterNerd,
@MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

While England is definitely the worst offender, it really is more just western Europe

RamrodBaguette,

While it’s true all of Western Europe is guilty, there’s a reason why people point to Britain first and foremost. Its empire was pretty much the codifier of what people think of when the word “superpower” is used. There wasn’t such an uncontested concentration of power in a single polity that could be projected globally until the UK came out on top from the Napoleonic Wars then went on to subjugate Asia and Africa by the mid-late 19th Century, essentially becoming master of the world market and trade networks (at least until the onset of WWI). Not even the Spanish and Portuguese Empires held such a monopoly. Even after the start of Britain’s terminal decline into becoming America’s lapdog in the cold war, it still influenced world politics in ways that still affect us today (relevantly, it was originally Israel’s patron power before the US supplanted them sometime in the 70s/80s).

empireOfLove,
TheUltimateCommunist, to memes in In our lifetimes 🤞
@TheUltimateCommunist@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Rad 😎

velox_vulnus, (edited ) to memes in Isr*el out here collecting their chapter's geneseed.

I can understand partners asking for their deceased one’s sperm/egg, but relatives? This sounds like something straight out of Wolfenstein.

Rivalarrival,

If it works anything like US medical laws, a girlfriend or fiance would need to have his medical power of attorney to make such a request. His next of kin would not.

boCash, to memes in Isr*el out here collecting their chapter's geneseed.
@boCash@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar
Flyberius, to memes in Isr*el out here collecting their chapter's geneseed.
@Flyberius@hexbear.net avatar

The swords of iron war? Have they already named it. And they have given it the most ethno-fascist, deus-vult name conceivable.

Thorngraff_Ironbeard,
@Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net avatar

Yeah it’s really mask off some biblical evil type shit.

Gallardo994, to memes in Isr*el out here collecting their chapter's geneseed.

Why are you bypassing our filters by censoring the word, may I ask?

pudcollar, (edited ) to memes in Making cringe memes about trump because it’s funny dot jpeg

Ha it’s funny because it calls Drumpf a girl, which lowers him.

10_0, to memes in Making cringe memes about trump because it’s funny dot jpeg

Girboss because movie staring them lose money

Habahnow, to memes in Amerikkkan Airlines

Someone explain this to me? Hamas is a terrorist group the controls the Palestinians in Gaza. They are not representive of most Palestinians. So this feels like an easy, “yes I condemn Hamas,but also the Palestinian people are being screwed by the Israeli government”

Deykun, (edited )

Most people don't have an issue with it. But starting each interview with a question: "Do you condemn Al-Qaeda?" is sinister. It is not a good faith question.

If you are asked this question each time you want to speak about atrocities committed against civilians and have to proclaim that you do not in fact support terrorists, you have the right to be offended. Especially when the person asking you that question cannot condemn cutting off water to civilians.

After 9/11, thousands of Arabs living peacefully in the US were asked to condemn Al-Qaeda, which they did because who wouldn't? That condemnation and support was used to justify attacking Iraq - the country where Al-Qaeda was not located in, and resulted in the death of a million people there. Imagine being an American Iraqi supporting the US's right to "defend itself" and seeing your family in Iraq and their children being killed.

There is a level of analogy here where a person with relatives in Gaza is asked by interviewers that question while trying to advocate to not cut water or bomb one of the most densely populated places in the region.

You have the right to be offended if people start asking you to condemn segregation, Nazism, or bigotry when you never claimed that you don't have an issue with those things. Especially when the person asking you is using it as a tactic while you are trying to alarm about human rights being violated, and civilians / children being hurt.

TrippyFocus,

The meme is that westerners care more that that the people that are seeing their kids murdered condemn the only (while very imperfect) group that is helping them instead of focusing on the fact that kids are being murdered.

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

the only (while very imperfect) group that is helping them

This is very important to ignore if you don’t want to be inconvenienced by the tremendous and unnecessary suffering that’s happening.

Omega_Haxors,

America is a white supremacist nation, if you click that option you won’t be able to get your flight. In any civilized nation such an option would be illegal (as it’s not their fucking business) but because they’re a shithole country with no oversight, they get to fuck people over their views.

specialdealer,

Oh honey it’s not real

Omega_Haxors,

What are you talking about, everything on the internet is real. It’s not like anyone is going to go outside to check.

toomanyjoints69,

Please take a few days to clean your moms basement and stay off Lemmy for at least 2 days.

Omega_Haxors,
toomanyjoints69, (edited )

I didn’t know you thought Stalin intentionally organized the famine. I’m sorry you feel that way. :(

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

No, the fact you watch a sex offender cryptofash and think that makes you a communist. We see what you are.

toomanyjoints69,

Its not healthy to be so angry on the internet. You should cook dinner with your mom instead. Do it with her not for her. She will appreciate the time you spend with her.

praise_idleness,

This has to be satire

Ram_The_Manparts, to risa in Sorry I can't help myself.
@Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net avatar
gregorum,

Chékotay

aeronmelon, to risa in Sorry I can't help myself.

I hope Jefferies Tube Chakotay becomes a trend.

Nakoichi, (edited )
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

You just reminded me of Jeffry Toobin and I hate you for that lol.

alcoholicorn, (edited )

On the bridge of the USS Voyager:

Janeway: What are you… Is he?

Jeffry, you’re still on the viewscreen, we can see you.

JEFFRY YOU HAVE TO END THE TRANSMISSION!

God dammit he turned off his own screen…

… Kim, load torpedo.

Juice, to risa in Sorry I can't help myself.
@Juice@hexbear.net avatar

What’s the theory justification for “landlords are cops?” Fuck cops and fuck landlords but what is the connection?

dejected_warp_core,

Don’t know where that comes from, but I think it has to do with the institutionalized authoritative power that comes with the job. Both are positions that can be abused, and can negatively impact people’s lives.

On the other hand, my past landlords were nowhere near as helpful about noise complaints, as the police. So there’s that.

ShimmeringKoi,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

Not just positions that can be abused, but positions that are fundamentally abusive no matter how good the individual occupying them may be

Nakoichi, (edited )
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

I almost got evicted over a bogus noise complaint. You are basically illustrating the point of the meme.

Nakoichi,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

To elaborate on what @ShimmeringKoi said, as a landlord they must collect rent. That is inherently an extractive and exploitative relationship and they can only extract rent with the implicit threat of violent removal from your home if you do not pay it. And the arm of the state with the monopoly on said violence is the police, ergo landlords are cops.

Juice,
@Juice@hexbear.net avatar

Sorry I still don’t get it. Cops embody the violent coercion that is needed to enforce contracts and laws. Laws determine how contracts are made and what penalties for breaking them. Contracts are a legal confabulation that serve several functions, probably most relevant is they are the mechanisms that makes property ownership possible, such as land. Landlords have the personal property “rights” as outlined in property law and defined by the contract. Cops enforce the laws and contracts with violence.

Cops can only be landlords if they own property and collect rents. Landlords don’t have the ability to use violence to enforce their property rights, they have to call the cops. They both occupy this weird class middle zone that is neither bourgeoisie nor worker: collecting rents doesn’t necessarily make one a capitalist, land isn’t really strictly capital; cops aren’t proletarian workers though at one time they may have been working class with nothing to sell but their labor. Both are crucial to underwriting liberal private property relations which is the basis for capitalist exploitation and the class rule that emanates from it. But landlords have a completely different relation to production than cops, so they don’t occupy the same class position.

I’m not debating and I’ll read or watch anything recommended to me. I’m also mostly interested in specific and correct formulations of class, I study a lot and have high standards. If this is one of those things that is more agitational than strictly correct, I can live with that but if there is a critical formulation that I’m missing, or if this is a paradigm that other leftists are using to help formulate their views then I would very much like to understand

Nakoichi,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

Sorry I am at work I’ll give you something meatier when I get home.

Juice,
@Juice@hexbear.net avatar

Take your time! I appreciate your willingness

Nakoichi,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

Okay so what are cops?

Are cops just the ones on the beat, in uniform, harassing the unhoused, killing protestors or just innocent people caught in the gears of capital? I think most of us would say no, obviously not. There are also detectives and all manner of plain clothes officers, but there are also all the prosecutors, the judges, the DAs etc.

These are all surely also cops, right? After all, we call her Kopmala for a reason. So what about landlords then? Do they not slot neatly into this power structure? Are they not just a half step removed from that legitimized arm of violence that is the state enforcing property rights?

Can your landlord inspect your home? Can they decide on a whim to utilize that violent arm of the state to kick you out on the street if they feel that you are not adequately maintaining - or even better, improving - the value of their property?

In all of these ways the landlord is more of a cop than the DA or the judge.

Not all cops wear badges or uniforms.

Juice,
@Juice@hexbear.net avatar

I guess I don’t totally agree with calling everyone that exists within that weird administrative class “cops,” but it isn’t a critical disagreement. I get what you mean though, thanks for the explainer

HairHeel, (edited )
@HairHeel@programming.dev avatar

This is the internet. Everything we dislike is the same. Landlords are cops, Nazis, Russians, Israelis, authoritarians, libertarians, racists, homophobes, and transphobes; all at the same time.

Nakoichi,
@Nakoichi@hexbear.net avatar

I don’t dislike Russians. I am also curious of your definition of “authoritarian.” I am pro-liberation and pro-revolution, both things which would require a change in authority, either the colonized or the otherwise oppressed exerting their “authority” over their oppressors. Revolutions are by nature authoritarian. Also most of those things should be reviled and are not contradictory.

Juice,
@Juice@hexbear.net avatar

Fair enough!

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