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MNByChoice, to memes in Saw a news story people about people getting arrested for at Wal-Mart for forgeting to scan one item

Good reason to not use self-checkout. Tired, distracted, or old, then wait for a checker. Too poor for a lawyer, wait for a checker.

shectabeni,

The only problem with the sentiment of “just don’t use it” is that many of these stores have like one manned checkout vs a dozen sel checkouts. Not about to sit in line with the carts full of stuff when I need to grab two things.

CosmicTurtle,

I often go to customer service and ask them to check me out. When they point to the self checkout, I tell them I prefer a human.

Never had any issues except one time I was at Lowe’s and the woman just wouldn’t do it. I had to tell her either check me out or agree that whatever I ring up is accurate.

She called a manager over it, who then checked me out.

I’m still bitter about it.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

dont be this should be the new thing

Demand to have a clerk check you out

railsdev,

If you’re at a Walmart a good trick if you’ve only got a handful of items is checking out in electronics, apparel or HBA/cosmetics.

But in huge cities those cashiers are oftentimes missing or bombarded with key duty (where they lock up items that cost like $2) so it’s hit or miss.

(Regarding locking up simple items like deodorant: if it takes 45 minutes for someone to come unlock it and the only way to get someone to come over with a key is by shouting “help” very loudly I’m ordering it on Amazon.)

The_Hideous_Orgalorg,

Then find somewhere else to buy your two things. I all but refuse to even go to the big box stores anymore.

MNByChoice,

Yup. Sorry. I to feel that pain. But it is either go to a different store (if one is available), be very careful, or deal with the police and judicial system.

SARGEx117, to memes in Saw a news story people about people getting arrested for at Wal-Mart for forgeting to scan one item

I once had a Walmart employee follow me out of the building and start banging on my window screaming at me they’re calling the cops

Why?

I, while using a cane in one hand and the other occupied by a bag of dog food that was making me regret not waiting for a scooter, didn’t stop to chat with the old woman who was arbitrarily checking people’s receipts.

I told him he’s lucky I’m more level headed than most of my neighbors, because he would have been shot the moment he banged on glass and yelled, but if they want my receipt they can go watch the fucking cameras because I have somewhere to be.

Could I have handled it more calmly and with more understanding? Probably. But if you follow me out into the parking lot and start screaming at me, consider all respect lost, all decency dropped. You get back what you came in with.

Literally, the only reason I even went to Walmart is because the pet store I get the good food from had their registers all crash and wouldn’t start back up.

Since when did Walmart check receipts anyway?

Son_of_dad,

A loss prevention guy followed my sister to her car after dark once, he thought she took something and wanted to check her receipt. she was sobbing cause she thought she was about to get raped. Loss prevention officers are just idiotic jackasses who aren’t smart enough to do anything else.

SARGEx117,

When that guy gets maced or tasered, I would happily laugh in his face and tell him he deserved it.

How did the thought “I should follow this lone woman out to her car in the dark” pass through his mind…

TenderfootGungi,

Not saying it is right, but shopkeepers can legally detain customers long enough to figure out if a theft happened. They have to have a reason to suspect it, though.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopkeeper's_privilege

Zron,

Loss prevention can, random cashiers cannot.

Fuck em anyway, I pay for my shit and unless it’s a real cop who might shoot me if I twitch funny, I ain’t stopping for shit.

If they don’t want to pay for cashiers, they can deal with people stealing shit. Walmart especially is a corp on welfare, they have the most employees receiving food stamps and Medicaid than any other company. I don’t really care if the government subsidized megacorp loses money every year, they aren’t providing worthwhile jobs anyway.

satans_crackpipe,

Lol you should have done it, Rambo.

teamevil,

It doesn’t matter what Walmart or anyone except Costco (part of membership contract) and probably Sam’s club (contract again) says. Once you’ve purchased it they have NO legal right to inspect and you have NO legal obligations to stop. That being said I know the folks doing that job are not assholes so I will politely refuse and wish them a nice day.

In DC they they have the same type of legal witness called special police. Once one tried to stop me and I refused saying , “Call the police if you think I stole something” and kept going.

I’m not going to be harassed by employees after I’ve legally purchased profucts.

Please note if you are planning on running a scam or sneaking shit out, don’t draw attention to yourself. One law at a time is the rule.

db2,

I just smile and say “no thank you” and keep going. There’s nothing they can do unless they actually think you stole something and they don’t have the manpower to detain everyone who won’t stop for their receipt check.

Note though that doesn’t apply to Sam’s Club or Costco or similar, if you’re a “member” there you agreed to the checks.

assaultpotato,

They can’t detain you even if they think you have stolen, though (from a store policy perspective). There’s a reason all these stores train employees “observe don’t interfere”.

MaxVoltage,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

i really want to get tackled so i can sue

now i always DEMAND that they scan my groceries for me

TauZero,

Shopkeeper’s privilege does exist, many stores simply choose not to exercise it.

assaultpotato,

As I mentioned, “from a store policies perspective”. The shrinkage isn’t worth the liability and risk for Walmart.

bane_killgrind,

so long as the shopkeeper has cause to believe that the person detained in fact committed, or attempted to commit, theft

Shop keepers privilege can’t be used as a reason to detain customers for a receipt check. They don’t have “cause” as they did not see the person concealing anything.

TauZero,

That’s true! Receipt checks can get lost! I was replying to “They can’t detain you even if they think you have stolen” though. The “can’t” is a store policy thing, not a law thing.

radicallife, to memes in Saw a news story people about people getting arrested for at Wal-Mart for forgeting to scan one item

Donald suggests you be shot

RickyRigatoni, to memes in Saw a news story people about people getting arrested for at Wal-Mart for forgeting to scan one item
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s nothing. I’ve heard of people getting the cops called on them because the cashier forgot to scan an item and they noticed after getting home and went back to pay for it.

son_named_bort,

Why would you even go back to pay for it?

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

honesty is a malignant brain infection

Unaware7013,

Further proving there's no reason to be honest with corpos

ZILtoid1991, to memes in Saw a news story people about people getting arrested for at Wal-Mart for forgeting to scan one item
@ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

Meanwhile to the rich:

"You've been interfering with domestic and foreign elections, abused your workers, and even appeared with a noted pedophile? What about you promise you won't do it ever again?"

Something, something, the law protects the ruling class, not the common people.

Cappurnikus,

Law protects capital.

TheDoozer,

I’d say the bigger issue is if the manager fails to pay an employee for all hours worked (intentionally or accidentally), they don’t get to have cops called to arrest them, it’s on the employee to try to claw back their own money.

Wage theft is a far more significant issue than shoplifting but police, DAs, and legislators aren’t chomping at the bit to address that like they are shoplifting, which should tell you everything you need to know about who our “justice” system serves.

moipe, to memes in Saw a news story people about people getting arrested for at Wal-Mart for forgeting to scan one item

Those self checkout watchers are more intense on the food side than they are on the pharmacy side. Pharmacy: young employees may forget to give a fuck. Food: old employees, think they might be fired if they don’t watch every item everyone scans.

TAYRN, to memes in Saw a news story people about people getting arrested for at Wal-Mart for forgeting to scan one item

Since you didn’t link the news article to provide any context, I’m just gonna say “thieves get arrested. More at 10.”

Lanky_Pomegranate530,
@Lanky_Pomegranate530@midwest.social avatar

Did you not see the link in the body

TAYRN,

Yes, I saw the YouTube link. I did not click it, because I want to see the actual source. The “news story” you are qouting.

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s… a link to the news story. If you bothered to click it instead of bitching about not getting a different link, you’d already have what you’re asking for.

TAYRN,

Surely, you can give a more credible source than YouTube for your, no doubt, totally founded claim.

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Still haven’t clicked the link huh?

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Honey please you’re embarassing yourself.

atocci,
@atocci@kbin.social avatar

It's Inside Edition, not just some rando

TurboDiesel,
@TurboDiesel@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine not knowing that TV news exists.

CanadianCarl,

Go to a retirement home already. News organizations have been using YouTube for years. Newspapers are only a thing still, for people like you.

shectabeni,

News channels have been using YouTube to upload clips and segments for many many years now. But you probably don’t like YouTube because it’s big bad to folk like you.

coffeebiscuit,

insideedition.com/…/shoppers-claim-they-were-fals…

You’d be better of with the YouTube link thoug…

harmonea,
@harmonea@kbin.social avatar

Do you not know that actual news clips from actual news outfits get posted on youtube sometimes

guitarsarereal,

yeah, so it’s a link to Inside Edition, which is the longest-running syndicated news program and has been running since 1989 and is currently syndicated by CBS.

You can verify it’s the same channel as their official channel because Inside Edition’s website (www.insideedition.com see YT link in top-left corner) links directly to it.

Media Bias Fact Check rates them generally factual – mediabiasfactcheck.com/inside-edition/

It’s not especially highly rated as TV news, saw it described as “the fast food of TV news,” but I didn’t see anything that described it as substantially non-factual.

What’s your issue with Inside Edition, again?

DessertStorms,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

They can't answer that, because the source was never the issue, they never even clicked through to see what the source was. Them being a bootlicker who can't help but jump to the defence of and make excuses for the pigs is the only reason for this thread..

guitarsarereal,

:surprised_pikachu:

Apollo2323, to linuxmemes in Linux Users

I can take a shower in the river , free and open source!

Aggravationstation,
velovix, to maliciouscompliance in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)

The law requires that schools hang up “In God We Trust” signs, but I don’t believe it requires them to hang up every sign that is donated to them.

visak,

Yeah, I don’t read it as “must display every poster”. It says it has to be displayed in a prominent place in each building and that it has to be donated or purchased with donated funds. capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/…/SB00797I.htm

Pratai, to maliciouscompliance in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)

Very slim chance this actually happened. There no actual photo of the flag, just a digital image that was created. Which means if it was not the creator of the flag, but a third person- they’d have a photo of the flag or in the least- not bothered recreating it in photoshop, but just describing it in enough detail. And if it was the creator that posted this- it wouldn’t be in 3rd person suggesting “someone” did this.

Additionally, In the rare chance it did happen- it wouldn’t be enforced.

beneeney,
@beneeney@lemm.ee avatar

What? You mean someone would just go on the Internet and lie like that?

Pratai,

Based on all the comments here, you’d think anything posted on the internet is accepted as absolute truth. It’s not such a stretch to assume everyone believes this bullshit.

UnderpantsWeevil, to maliciouscompliance in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Selective enforcement is the name of the game. Ken Paxton won’t be using this rule to take over a school district in Bastrop.

corvaxL,

Well he won’t be doing anything regardless, since he’s currently suspended. Texas law dictates that anyone impeached by the state House (such as Paxton) is suspended from office while they await trial in the Senate.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Party’s over and Paxton is free to go back to business as usual.

rez_doggie, to maliciouscompliance in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)

How is this funny? It’s still religious doctrination. Oh I get it. Its a boomer catch phrase like “you couldn’t make this up”… Still not funny.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Its a pathetic liberal gotcha that fails to reconcile with the power of state government.

Either the sign goes up and some evangelicals vandalize it with impunity. Or the sign never goes up because school administrators don’t think the Texas AG will punish them for ignoring the law in this instance.

In this case, it doesn’t look like the flag was ever actually displayed.

Either way, evangelicals hold all the cards. Secular Liberals only manage to performatively protest in order to feel better.

xantoxis, to maliciouscompliance in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)

Apart from this, what if you just donated several hundred posters at once? They all have to be displayed?

Shrek,

That’s where I thought it was going.

XTornado,

One… Hundred… BILLION POSTERS!

httpjames,
@httpjames@sh.itjust.works avatar

New MrBeast video

visak, (edited )

No. They’re not interested in playing fair or being consistent. They’ll simply warp the rules to fit their outcome and declare these posters noncomplaint. You can’t out-maneuver people who simply cheat.

The assholes on that side of things are a mixture of those who actually believe and want the US to be a religious state, and those who simply are using religion as a method of control. That second group is happy to see religious conflict because a) it distracts from real problems while they consolidate money and power, 2) they can use the fervor to further solidify their support form that religious base.

This is absolutely not new and has happened before in history. It’s just sad to see the US going down this path.

xantoxis,

(I’m going to set aside the fact that your Very Serious reply to my joke post is off-tone, and actually give you a serious answer.)

If you sent hundreds of posters to a school, you would find some school administrators who were only too happy to have the opportunity to plaster the word “God” on every school wall because they’re warped. I acknowledge that’s a thing, let’s move past it.

Most school administrators either a) hate this shit, or b) don’t really give a fuck. If you pulled this prank on one of those schools which–and I really want to stress this–are not on board with the stupid law in the vast majority of cases, you are actually handing them a chance to pull a glorious act of malicious compliance. If I were one of them, I would comply with the letter of the law and wallpaper every wall in the school with these things. Give the kids and the parents a chance to see them, and complain. Who are they complaining to? Not you, your hands are tied, you’re just complying with the law. You will explain this very patiently to every single one of them complaining about a school where every surface says “In God we Trust”. You’re on their side, but the school board and your legislators need to hear about this, because hey, we’re on the same team.

You can even go with them, and testify that your staff had to spend hours putting them up, taking time away from school activities. What are you supposed to do? This hurts the children.

School administrators don’t make the laws, but they can act in a way that brings the issue to the forefront of everyone’s mind. School administrators can give the parents a good reason to take the fight to someone who can actually do something about it.

That might not work, in the end. Texas is run by lunatics, after all. But a huge pile of posters might just be the reason you sleep at night knowing you did what you could.

visak,

The idea of donating alternative posters has already been tried and that particular school board just ignored the issue: npr.org/…/texas-in-god-we-trust-arabic-signs-chaz…I’m sure they’d treat a donation of 100s of posters the same way.

And as I (not a lawyer) read the law it only says that a poster has to be displayed in each building and has to be donated or purchased with donated funds: capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/…/SB00797I.htmso I don’t think you as an administrator would get away with plastering up hundreds of posters around your school, but let’s say you did. The parents will complain to you AND the school board (i.e. your boss). They’ll say you’re making fun of their religion, you’re a communist, etc. Even if they law was unambiguously on your side, they’ll only see what they want to see. You’ll find your chances of promotion to be zero, or you’ll just be managed out. Even if the Board somehow agreed with you, you made a stink.

I have friends who are teachers and administrators, not in Texas, who have left or been kicked over lesser issues. The rest are looking forward to retirement.

These bozos passing these laws don’t understand irony. They just want misdirection, conformity, and compliant kids. We just need to directly tell them to fuck off at this point.

I’m sorry for my continued Very Seriousness.

Syrc, to maliciouscompliance in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)

Rainbow background would’ve been the cherry on top

Thetimefarm,

I actually looked into this back when it was originally happening and the rules were fairly strict. It specified background color and wording but it didn’t give a language so this guy did about the best you could given the rules.

However it would be a shame if someone printed a poster with UV reactive paint that changed to something else over time while it hangs.

I_DONT_RAPE_KITTEHS, to maliciouscompliance in Pretty funny indeed (Crossposter note: thought it would fit here very well)

*“Not like that!”

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