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ultratiem, to piracy in Several Piracy-Related Arrests Spark Fears of High-Level Crackdown * TorrentFreak
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Hugs mullvad

MigratingtoLemmy, to piracy in Several Piracy-Related Arrests Spark Fears of High-Level Crackdown * TorrentFreak

Lesson: either get a seedbox, get a VPN in Amsterdam, or live in South/South-east Asia.

myofficialaccount,

Is there a way to get and pay seedboxes anonymously? Otherwise the feds could “just” get your information from them. Like with every VPN service you got to trust the the service and their confidentiality (not keeping logs etc) I guess?

MigratingtoLemmy,

Even if you do pay them anonymously, your IP will be recorded when you access/download from them. Case in point: Mullvad was forced to shut off port-forwarding because of torrent traffic on their network. Mullvad allows you to pay with Monero.

Don’t do it for the privacy, do it because having the server in a different country like the Netherlands makes it easier to pirate. For all they know, you’re just accessing random IPs in the Netherlands and all they see is HTTPS traffic.

myofficialaccount,

That’s the thing, you’d have to connect to the seedbox via VPN anyways.

I’m using usenet anyway, always have, always will ;⁠-⁠)

Buck,

How do you find good things on Usenet now? So much of it is uploaded encrypted

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s what the indexer is for, no? Gives you the keys and a map.

Buck,

What indexer?

myofficialaccount,

Take a look at www.reddit.com/r/usenet/wiki/indexers/ for starters

Buck,

Most of the good ones are either invite only or pay for, and even then you’ll only get access to some of the keys needed.

None of the free ones provide keys as far as I’ve been able to find.

It seems rather messy and convoluted compared to how usenet used to be.

spaceaape,

IP alone isnt enough to convict someone in the states though. Since it only points to the local network and not the person on the network it could be anyone on that network. It was the issue the RIAA ran into when trying to take music downloaders to court.

MigratingtoLemmy,

How about Denmark?

feddit,
@feddit@feddit.de avatar

I believe this is more about scene release groups. People that rip bluerays or retrieve copies of cinema movies

MigratingtoLemmy,

They should be using seedboxes to seed, and should be using VPNs in other countries to upload their content. Worst case scenario, torrenting completely moves to i2p, eradicating the problems being faced by these groups today

brax,

Seedbox

I’ve admitted kinda taken a backseat to piracy for the last while, and I’ve seen this term come up a ton. Is it just a remote server that you download all of your shit on?

prenatal_confusion,

Yup. If you care about ratio then it has some proper speeds and ssd. But most people use it as a hop. I stopped and switched the arr to a docker network that only uses proton vpn. Best decision ever.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Yes

spaceaape,

Precisely but it doesn’t have to be remote. Some people self host locally but that requires a fast connection and a vpn. Most remote seedbox’s are basically virtual private servers. They usually have apps like Jellyfin or plex for streaming all your content locally. Which is what I do and it’s very automated and convenient. You can also use your seedbox as a vpn tunnel. If you’re a member or interested in private torrent trackers, a seedbox is recommended to help keep your ratio high.

archomrade,

Is this actually considered seedboxing? I always thought it was a remote thing for an extra layer of privacy

FatTony,
@FatTony@lemmy.world avatar

Why Amsterdam specifically?

MigratingtoLemmy,

Plenty of data centres and the Netherlands are excellent in terms of government policy towards “sharing”

interceder270,

Good to know. I’ve been concerned about finding host nations that let us do what we want.

loganberryq, to piracy in Several Piracy-Related Arrests Spark Fears of High-Level Crackdown * TorrentFreak

“The most recent reported conviction saw a 37-year-old man receive a 60-day suspended prison sentence in September for pirating more than a thousand works through local BitTorrent trackers.” Woaaah now, calm down there, killas. A hand can only be slapped so hard. Why even bother convicting at this point if one can pirate thousands of things and get a sentence like this? Surely they must realize how little of a deal it really is?

Land_Strider,

It is an action to emphasize the piracy is illegal and they will hunt you down for it using state resources, not matter the sentence.

This guy will be on their shitlist at least for a decade now. The next sentence would be times worse. But the best effect of this is that you sentence one guy, no matter how light the sentence is, then 1000 teens are afraid of ever thinking of piracy. Surely some of them will say “lol look at the joke of a sentence, so keep on pirating” but a lot won’t.

What’s better yet, a lot of those afraid teenagers will internalize piracy as both illegal and immoral.

Burn_The_Right, to piracy in Operation 404: USDOJ, PIPCU, ACE, MPA, IFPI, ESA, EPL & More Target Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak

This seems to focus heavily on Brazil-based operations. But it is sad to hear. I hope these service voids can be rapidly filled elsewhere.

Uglyhead, to piracy in Several Piracy-Related Arrests Spark Fears of High-Level Crackdown * TorrentFreak
@Uglyhead@lemmy.world avatar

Petty infighting between scene groups needs to stop. Fall together or fall apart.

Anders429,

Did we read the same article? This mentions nothing about infighting between groups.

Uglyhead,
@Uglyhead@lemmy.world avatar

So, a couple people went down because OpSec was broken by rival scene groups outing people’s identities; from there things started to crumble more and more.

deleted, to piracy in Several Piracy-Related Arrests Spark Fears of High-Level Crackdown * TorrentFreak

I’m not subscribing to streaming services.

I’ll ditch the idea of watching TV the moment my arr setup stop working.

brax,

I used to subscribe to streaming services but then they took all their content that I used to watch off - either to move to another streaming service or just “gone forever”.

If they don’t want the money I was giving them, why do they give a fuck if I pirate it? I tried to do things right and they told me they didn’t want my money.

deleted,

Exactly, I cancelled my Netflix subscription when I knew you can watch season 1 and 2 of a show but you must subscribe to another service to watch 3 and 4.

It was the dealbreaker to me.

MigratingtoLemmy, to piracy in Court: Cloudflare is Liable for Pirate Site, But Not as a DNS Provider

I really hope everyday piracy goes to I2P. Screw these people

SchizoDenji,

With qbittorrent supporting i2p, I think we will soon be there. The main hurdle is private trackers who rely on IP info.

JustMy2c,

Plz can explain. Dumb user of 1337x 😢😔

(which didn’t work when traveling Europa…)

WarmApplePieShrek,

if it did work, you’d have a thousand euro fine, so be glad it didn’t

JustMy2c,

Well it worked on the third try/itiration. 1337x.cs I think

SchizoDenji,

Tor is an implementation of i2p. Basically it’s a new protocol that obfuscates everything end to end.

On public trackers you’d be fine since it’s public and ip doesn’t matter. But on private trackers, they usually need your ip to track your activity on the tracker, but with i2p it would be nigh impossible to do so.

Sethayy,

I’ve thought about this and wouldn’t it be way more private (and realistically secure given changing IPS) to just use a cryptographical key each login? Like everywhere else on the web?

WarmApplePieShrek,

Most public trackers do this. Schizo’s information is far outdated.

SchizoDenji,

The problem isn’t about logins but tracking the network traffic.

Sethayy,

Yeah you’d need to dynamically track login/IP association, but that wouldn’t be particularly hard either

SchizoDenji,

Yeah but private trackers need to adopt this

kylian0087, (edited )

Tor is not a implementation of I2P. They are 2 different technologies with different usecases.

Tor ussage nodes and hops to obfuscate trafics origin while I2P obfuscates the entire network layer. With I2P every nodes IP is know to every node. Wile this is not the case for tor. Thirth hop doesnt know the IP of the first hop.

Also tor is heavily used to access the clearnet while I2P is not designed with clearnet in mind.

WarmApplePieShrek,

You still got it half wrong. I2P hops don’t know each other. The big difference is I2P tries to make every user a relay while only Tor relays are relays. Hence Tor torrenting is not recommended because it overloads the limited relays, I2P torrenting is fine because you expand the pool of relays at the same time. I2P doesn’t really have exit nodes, too, so it’s a separate network from the internet.

kylian0087, (edited )

I never said the hops are know on I2P. All the nodes are though because it is a P2P network. Perhaps some bad wording on my part. But yeah your are right

MigratingtoLemmy,

The day rutracker and nyaa move is when I’ll truly feel at home pirating on i2p

neshura, to piracy in Court: Cloudflare is Liable for Pirate Site, But Not as a DNS Provider
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Most Publishers in any Industry are a cancer on society. Cramming DRM in where they can while scalping both customers and creators whilst gaslighting both into believing continuing to shovel money to their overpriced services is in their best interest.

ultratiem,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m sorry when you say most, you mean all right? Right??

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

I say most because if there is even a single one doing what they are supposed to do then saying “all” would be wrong and I am aware of at least one offering drm free ebooks (unless you consider an embedded username in the epub file drm) at reasonable prices while (as far as I am aware) not fucking over the authors

haui_lemmy,

The worst development of all has been the „buy but dont own“ model. If I buy anything, I own it. It’s symple, reliable and permanent. Obviously, if I own something, I can sell it. If someone owns a video game, music or a movie, they can sell it. This perverted idea of being able to tell a customer what to do with their bought stuff needs to go.

lukas, (edited )
@lukas@lemmy.haigner.me avatar

Man, that’d be horrible! Imagine people could exercise their rights. Thank God we live in a world of zero digital ownership with anti DRM circumvention laws to strip everyone from rights copyright laws are supposed to grant. We can sue anyone that scans books and lends them out 1:1 as that’s untransformative and unfair use. But hey, it’s a free market! Let’s offer them e-books with DRM for $15 that libraries can only lend out 15 times, 20 hours total read time or three months after purchase, whichever comes first, and then jack up the price to $30 when they’re locked into the ecosystem. Sounds like a fair deal to me! Not like they have an alternative.

Burn_The_Right, to piracy in Court: Cloudflare is Liable for Pirate Site, But Not as a DNS Provider

Cloudflare should discontinue service to music streaming companies or music industry sites. Let the music industry go to war with the internet at large and see how this plays out for them.

WarmApplePieShrek,

Like the Bahnhof ISP in Sweden. They were ordered by a court order from Elsevier (the academic journal extortion firm) to block sci-hub, so they blocked sci-hub and Elsevier journals.

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

CDN services certainly but not DNS, we’re all profitting from Cloudflare & Co having fully automated DNS because that is the sole fact currently holding back court ordered DNS blocks on a large scale.

The DNS Providers do not discriminate and that fact guarantees them (largely) not being forced to discriminate. Not interfering with anyone’s DNS is the most Cloudflare can do for the piracy community because it ensures Publishers can’t just send an angry email to get a DNS block

njordomir, to piracy in Court: Cloudflare is Liable for Pirate Site, But Not as a DNS Provider

At this point its pretty much a moral transgression to buy music from any labels, organizations, or groups filing these lawsuits. If no one bought their music, they’d have to join a mock trial team or debate club and we might finally be able to straighten out the mess that is copyright law. :-D

haui_lemmy,

Exactly. Especially getting rid of this ridiculous buy but now own idea.

s38b35M5, to piracy in Court: Cloudflare is Liable for Pirate Site, But Not as a DNS Provider
@s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

The music industry welcomed the development, stating that a service that helps infringers evade prosecution through anonymization also acts illegally.

But a service that artificially inflates revenues with shady accounting of song plays while simultaneously withholding payments toward creators, that’s totally not criminal.

-Also the music industry

Copyright laws based in the eighteenth century sure are awesome when applying analog scarcity to the digital world! /s

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

I agree, why not have all of the funds go to servers and the engineers+teams and the rest of the profits go to artists that make the service possible

Kichae,

Because our whole economic system revolves sound and rewards rent seeking, and paying people operates in opposition to that.

WarmApplePieShrek,

That’s why I pirate. I don’t even use 95% of what I download and seed. Just spread it.

s38b35M5, (edited )
@s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

I’m for publishers and other representatives of the old system pulling away from the digital world close to entirely. Their whole business model requires scarcity that used to exist when creators were on the other side of the world and fans were lucky to have them come within 200 miles for a chance to enjoy them, and in the meantime, want to buy a record to experience them at home.

Now, creators can be in our hands, on our desks, and easily in our living rooms. The middlemen that brought those scarce physical objects to us (records, tapes, vhs and audio, books, etc) aren’t needed anymore, because the distribution of the art or idea is instant and on demand and already paid for by the communications package we all subscribe to.

Fans can connect directly with creators, who no longer need millions of fans to give them a huge slice of overall music (or other creative work) revenue. Just a few hundred devoted fans is enough to live comfortably, instead of being a superstar.

I’m dreaming, though…

ETA: the publishers could rethink their role and evolve to help creatives reach their audience, but, currently, they impede that. Creatives do better (per fan) when they know their fans and can connect directly with them.

zjaume, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

We really need to push for the use of i2p for torrenting. Given that the the offer of VPNs with port forwarding that are decent is little and decreasing every year.

cupcakezealot, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

imagine if they spent half as much time going after abusers or billionaire tax cheats as they do people who download game of thrones from seven years ago.

Kushia, (edited ) to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

I watched a thing about copyright and trademark enforcement where the corporate organization was somehow able to gather a team of 50 police at tax payer expense and march them into a Sunday market in order to capture and shut down market stores selling fake knockoffs. You could see how wildly unpopular it was with the entire crowd around them where some shoppers even continued browsing and trying to purchase goods from the shut down stores even with cops standing right there trying to make the crowd move on.

Copyright and trademark infringement against multi-billionare companies with continuous record profits is seen as a victimless “crime” at best by the vast majority of people, even reasonably well off people too. The only repercussion if you’re “caught” should be just paying the actual construction/reproduction cost of the item which is pennies, they weren’t going to make this sale at their ridiculous retail price in the first place and their real losses are miniscule at best.

Marin_Rider,

that is the case in Australia, courts ruled only actual loss can be pursued (cost of a DVD basically) which made it uneconomical for IP holders to sue individuals. they still messa round the edges and tried to get the government to ban access to pirate sites (easy to bypass)

Cannacheques, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

I feel like most people including producers don’t care so much, they care more about promoting more people to get into the whole creatives sector so to speak so that there’s less concentrated loss of capital and risk for everyone involved including the pirates and “copyright enforcers”

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