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ugh, to piracy in India blocks GitHub, after lobbying done by copyright trolls

I read that Linux usage is much higher in India (I think ~13% vs 5% in the US, though the statistics are probably outdated). I am totally ignorant when it comes to India, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m wondering if the rise of Linux users has something to do with the government trying to limit access to Github.

Nobsi,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

No it doesn’t.

Kleptomaniacal,

Indian here.

Most government organisations in India have shifted to using linux (primarily ubuntu) because they didn’t want to pay hefty license fees to microsoft and to buy new PCs, since almost all of their computers either ran Windows 7 or XP.

txtsd,

Could you provide sources for this? I still see government computers running old windows.

Kleptomaniacal,

opensourceforu.com/…/indian-supreme-court-opts-fo…

Indian Courts have been using Ubuntu for over a decade.

news.itsfoss.com/indian-govt-linux-windows/

The Indian armed forces are evaluating the shift to an Ubuntu-based distro that is developed locally this august.

txtsd,

I know that the first one hasn’t held up. I know a few people in the high court circles who have no idea what Linux is and exclusively use AND are asked to use windows specific software.

The second link looks promising. Thanks for sharing!

ToxicWaste,

To use Linux at the military just makes sense. I used to write software for a military contractor and the SW was only deployed on hardened RedHat. I thought to myself that this is a rare case of the military being smarter than the private sector :D

SchizoDenji,

The other way round. Government is pro Ubuntu/Linux.

BolexForSoup, (edited ) to piracy in DNS Resolver Quad9 Wins Pirate Site Blocking Appeal Against Sony
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

I am under no illusion that 99% of people who pirate, movies, music, games, etc. are doing it for purely selfish reasons and a lot of sites exist to enable it. But the simple fact of the matter is court battles over piracy have been one of the strongest bulwarks for consumer protection/ownership and protecting an open internet over the last 20 years. So yeah, a lot of folks are going to make some drivel up about how they’re preserving history or whatever as they don’t even adhere to basic archive standards and their entire collection is coincidentally only stuff they like lol, but hey, I still like seeing the wins!

density,
@density@kbin.social avatar

a lot of folks are going to make some drivel up about how they’re preserving history or whatever as they don’t even adhere to basic archive standards and their entire collection is coincidentally only stuff they like lol

history will never forget joe rogan, the family guy, nirvana, playboy magazine, zelda, 4chan etc thanks to these heroic amateur archivists... lol not exactly representative of the plurality of human creativity

around the edges of the amateurs and within institutions they support like archive.org there is more room to value the diversity of human creation. I hope there would be more infusion of democracy and valuing of materials not of interest to white men.

teichflamme,

Africans and Asians pirate a shit ton of stuff, so I don’t know why you had to bring race into this

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

You ignored like 90% of the comment.

teichflamme,

And? I could have cited the entirety of the comment and my argument would still stand

BolexForSoup, (edited )
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

So whining about “reverse racism” or whatever you call it these days qualifies as an argument now?

snownyte, (edited )
@snownyte@kbin.social avatar

I'll take those downvotes as admission of guilt, thank you.

You're very much on point. I see it all of the time, people are just holding out their hands more for free stuff than giving a single shit about the cause of piracy. "Plz give me link to download photoshop" or "plz give me seeds to download torrent of this AAA game, plz" almost all of the time. They decorate it through many guises of reasons but the bottom line is still the same - "I just want free shit".

And this year alone has seen a lot of awful losses for the pirating community as a whole. RARBG is gone, Uloz is gone (from what it once was anyways), 13DL is gone, Webtoon will soon be gone, Fmoviesto is gone. These are very huge sources of all of the pirated media we've taken for granted over the years. And when they all went down, one by one, the sentiment wasn't "awww, I'm going to miss them" in sincerity. It's more like "aww, now where will I get my free shit now?" and they offer absolutely no resolutions except for the more savvy folks.

I blame loud-mouth, entitled and selfish pirates for why these services get shut down. I blame them because they're the ones going around online just yapping and yapping, eventually it'll catch the interests of undesired people or people who are morally conflicted on piracy. They take action, for however long it takes, the service is shut down and everyone is shit out of luck.

They're the same idiots who storm to pirate communities all like "WHUT DU I DU? I GUT A LETTRH FROM MUH ISP AND I JUST DUWNLUDED SHIT" and 9 times out of 10, people have to spell it out for them that the reason they get caught is because of no VPN or mistrusting the wrong VPN services or not watching their fucking backs.

Now on the other hand, I will not jeer for the times pirating has it's victories, like this one. Because it'd be dismissive and ignorant to ignore the elephant in the room that the core reason why piracy still continues is become of the stomping of consumer rights and the draconian practices of the entertainment industry that not a lot of people are holding accountable for why shit is the way it is.

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

It is shocking how many people don’t know how to use a VPN when proton is like $5 and takes all of 10 seconds to set up.

It seems I pissed a few people off with my comment, but hey, if you feel I’m talking about you maybe you should think about it folks!

Let me also be clear that I am not against pirating. I am against covering it with window dressing and pretending we aren’t all doing what we know we’re doing.

docious,

It seems I pissed a few people off with my comment

I think you overestimate the downvote button.

BolexForSoup,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

“A few” is an over estimation?

docious,

“Pissed off”

Wow.

BolexForSoup, (edited )
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

You’re being far more irritating than any of them. You’re seriously picking a fight over “pissed off a few people”? Reevaluate how you spend your time man. I’m done personally.

docious,

Picking a fight

Wow

snownyte, (edited )
@snownyte@kbin.social avatar

Especially with how much it holds your hand in understanding how it works. I'd know, because I've used the damn thing.

I think the people getting stung by the commentary here, are really people who I've personally called out in my comment alone. They also don't like the truth of what's being told in general as well.

I've pirated for over 16 years myself and I know my end goal was always to get free shit, but it became more than that where I've started to pay attention about the scope of pirating. I got better and understood better as I went along. In other words, I'm more of a wary pirate these days than stupidly bumbling myself around and relying on all of these services to stay up forever, for my leisure.

The worst I've ever gotten in my entire history of pirating was just an ISP letter. A single letter. I didn't get fined, arrested, raided, dragged to court or anything. Done it all in America, the place where it was a hotbed where a lot of that was going on with other people caught downloading and uploading.

And I side with all of the pirates who're fighting a good fight by keeping the practice alive and duping the entertainment industry at every turn. I side with other wary pirates who'd scoff and cold shoulder the idiots who refuse to learn, hell that's why some places are fucking invite only, for christ sake! They don't want stupid scrubs coming into their turf and fucking things up for the rest of them and asking a hundred dumb questions they've don't got the time to answer. Especially when they've been answered as much as it's been asked!

kbal, to piracy in FBI and Austria's C4 Hit Z-Library with a New Wave of Domain Seizures
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Ah right, there was a book I've been meaning to download. Thanks for the reminder, FBI!

iopq, to piracy in ACE Shuts Down Huge Football Piracy Ring, Total Destruction TBC

There should be an open source p2p application kind of like torrent, but for live streaming things

pelikan,
@pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s here for ages and it’s called sopcast. I was using it decade ago for soccer translations before moving to IPTV. After quick googling i see it’s still a thing.

iopq,

Where’s the source code?

vulgarcynic,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

Do you have some IPTV recs? DM if you’re not cool with posting here. Thanks!

SchizoDenji, (edited )

AceStream?

The performance wasn’t good.

iopq,

If we had source code maybe I could fix the issue, but some adware piece of shit program that barely works is not the solution.

TheImpressiveX, to piracy in Warner Bros. Wants Tumblr to Identify Beetlejuice 2 ‘Leaker’
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

It was me, I’m the leaker.

CIA_chatbot,

No! I am the leaker!

DebatableRaccoon,

No! I am Spartacus… I mean the leaker!

NaoPb,

No, it was me

unreachable,
@unreachable@lemmy.world avatar
Quacksalber, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

And that is why I don’t torrent, living in Germany. Even just leeching will put you on the radar of, at best scam law firms, at worst motivated rights-holders.

CriticalMiss,

Kid named vpn:

ANIMATEK,

I have downloaded dozens of terabytes in Germany and I’m doing fine buddy.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

For now
No need to risk your savings over Avengers Endgame 4K…

ANIMATEK,

I’ve been doing it for almost 10 years. I know what I am doing. I have several layers of security.

If you however are a tech illiterate then of course you’ll get fined. I have friends who got fined too.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Would it be possible to reveal what you did to increase security?
I always (want to) try to improve mine.

ANIMATEK, (edited )

I have two containers, qBittorrent and the VPN:

  • VPN is fully tunneled and encrypted.
  • qbt only ever sees the VPN as its network. It is logically isolated from my main gateway.
  • there are healthchecks running, so if the VPN fails qbt enters in a restart loop until the VPN is back to a healthy status.
  • I use private trackers for 99% of my torrents.

You also have to know that these scummy law firms use honey pot attacks, where they advertise themselves as leechers and record your IP if you upload to them. Technically a proxy to another country would just be enough here, but hey, this works too and I sleep better.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Since you use a torrent container and a vpn container I am interested in how you manage to communicate with the torrent container.
Do you utilize the *arr stack? Also with a docker?
If the answer is yes, how did you achieve the communication between the containers?

Reason I am asking is, that I want to connect to my other container but when I bind my container to the service I am unable to let it communicate directly with it.
By that logic, I’d need to access the container through the vpn container, right? (*arr <-> vpn container <-> downloader container)

ANIMATEK,

You have to expose the qbt http port in your VPN container. All API communication (arrs etc) goes through here.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

After much thinking I managed it myself and found that out as well. What I also needed was the environment variable FIREWALL_OUTBOUND_SUBNETS so my other containers could connect to the container.

Schmeckinger,

2 friends got sued for around 3000 each here in germany, but they “only” had to pay 1600.

kungen,

You mean they got a shock letter that says “pay us, or we’ll take you to court”? Just throw that junk mail away.

WarmApplePieShrek,

If you do that in Germany, they’ll take you to court and win. You have to pay their legal fees too.

kungen,

Do they actually do that in the majority of cases, or just a few to scare people? Germany is really weird on IP law…

Chewy7324, (edited )

It’s really easy for a law firm in Germany to find out who the IP belonged to, if they have proof that the IP infringed on their copyrighted media.

The law firm looks at torrents and downloads a bit. With the IP, time and media name they can send a cease and desist letter with a fine of hundreds to thousands of euro. Ignoring the letters is not possible.

This is possible because the law firm has contracts with many big copyright holders (Disney, …).

But most of the time the fine is too high, so it’s possible to pay half by getting a lawyer. Basically the copyright holder overestimate how much damages they can get for the distribution of copyrighted material. If I understand it correctly. IANAL.

It’s simple to avoid by binding the torrent client to the network interface of a VPN, but not everyone knows that.

WallEx,

Not if you use a VPN though. Also, modifying the letter, so it doesn’t include you admitting to the crime has proven effective for me (I was young once and didn’t use a VPN)

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

The letter is also pretty toothless since in a household with more than one person the actual infringer cannot be identified solely by IP, still better to just use a VPN though, avoids that entire can of worms

WallEx,

Yeah you would still get these letters, so having a VPN saves you the hassle

Chewy7324,

I’ve heard a few times that people managed to dodge the letter, but I’ve also heard of multiple people who had to pay.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

It’s also very easy to avoid this little problem by not being the only adult in the household. Unless one of the at least two adults snitches they can’t sue because there is reasonable doubt about the actual infringer (not legal advice, better option is to just get a VPN)

WarmApplePieShrek,

They do it with German efficiency.

sour, (edited )
@sour@kbin.social avatar

what's a motivated rights holder

is scary

GnuLinuxDude, (edited )
@GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml avatar

You better watch out.
You better not try
To pirate movies I’m telling you why
Motivated rights holder’s coming to town

He sees what you’ve been viewing
He knows when you’re online
He knows if you’ve been sharing movies
So use a vpn for goodness sake!

WarmApplePieShrek,

BREIN

Grimpen,

Seed box or VPN should be options.


This comment sponsored by NordVPN :)

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Seed box

I hear there are good ones in the Netherlands!

DarkThoughts,

NordVPN will log and share your data if ordered by court. They've confessed as much last year.

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

A company admitting they comply with the law when ordered to by the court is a positive to me as it means that they don't do it unless they don't do it on a whim and they are complying with the law, which would most likely also include privacy laws. Any company that would refuse a court order is going to be shut down and probably have all of their records turned over instead of the narrow subset that would be ordered by a court.

captainlezbian,

What you want is for them to demonstrate incapacity to comply. “We’d love to help your honor, but as we sell a privacy service we don’t log user activity”

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-with-law-enforcement-data-requests

"From day one of our operations, we have never provided any customer data to law enforcement, nor have we ever received a binding court order to log user data. We never, for a second, logged user VPN traffic, and the results of multiple audits prove that we are true to our policies," the company said.

In the event the company does receive information requests from a law enforcement agency, NordVPN says it "would do everything to legally challenge them."

"However, if a court order were issued according to laws and regulations, if it were legally binding under the jurisdiction that we operate in, and if the court were to reject our appeal, then there would be no other option but to comply. The same applies to all existing VPN companies if they operate legally. In fact, the same applies to all companies in the world," NordVPN said.

So they don't log and are just admitting that they might need to if they were forced to. That is extremely reasonable.

kungen,

admitting that they might need to if they were forced to. That is extremely reasonable.

It’s not though? The reasonable result would be to simply shut down in that jurisdiction.

DarkThoughts,

You do you but it also means that if they suspect you of illegal downloads or streams and get that court order, that they'll log that shit and then you'll receive those lovely letters eventually, making the whole point of the VPN pointless.

kungen,

You can comply with the law whilst not having anything to provide the law. Such as Mullvad does.

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

That is also now Nord works, they just clarified that they would comply with a court order if necessary which is how legal businesses work.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-with-law-enforcement-data-requests

"From day one of our operations, we have never provided any customer data to law enforcement, nor have we ever received a binding court order to log user data. We never, for a second, logged user VPN traffic, and the results of multiple audits prove that we are true to our policies," the company said.

plague_sapiens,
@plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

NordVPN being trash xD Not only because of that. Complying with the law is a ok. I just hate their whole vpn and security propaganda. Like, you will be hacked without us… And they have been hacked, if I remember correctly it was twice…

There are better commercial VPN providers.

Sadly ovpn.to went down some time ago. Cheap, secure and Mr. Nice was really nice and helpful. He probably died -.-

Grimpen,

Good to know. I was joking since they sponsor so many YouTubers.

I usually recommend looking at TorrentFreak’s VPN reviews.

torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/

plague_sapiens,
@plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

VPN and you are fine lol. Sometimes you have to pay even for illegal stuff… Nothing’s free…

supervent,

You could use i2p for bittorrent, it is free, slower but secure.

plague_sapiens, (edited )
@plague_sapiens@lemmy.world avatar

Freaking slow, exactly like Tor imo. The last torified torrenting test was many years ago. Speeds were at 100kb/s. Nope. With double VPN I’m at ~150 Mbit/s during torrent downloading.

And time is more expensive than anything else :)

Chewy7324,

If more people would torrent over i2p with great internet connections the experience would get better, since all i2p users are part of the network of servers. The slowest connection in the multiple hops decides the connection speed.

Because all traffic is encrypted and doesn’t leave the i2p network, forwarding traffic from unknown systems is not an issue, similar to Tor middle nodes (Tor Exit nodes shouldn’t be hosted at home).

WarmApplePieShrek,

Just use a VPN

Vampire, to piracy in Pirate Site Blocking Demands Intensify in the US
@Vampire@hexbear.net avatar

Vote Pirate Party

Apollo2323,

Is there a Pirate party in the US?

Morgikan,
@Morgikan@lemm.ee avatar

Every day is a pirate party in the US.

pastermil,

AARRRR

Saoirse,
@Saoirse@hexbear.net avatar

Ha, no, we don’t have the kind of political system which would make such small parties useful. Anyone who isn’t in one of the big two is essentially disenfranchised.

kreynen,
@kreynen@kbin.social avatar

we don’t have the kind of political system YET...

Roughly 50 American voting jurisdictions — from small cities to states — have now moved to a ranked choice voting system, according to tracking by the advocacy group FairVote, and it's shaping up to be one of the political subplots of 2024.

Advocates say ranked choice voting could help take some of the toxicity out of American politics while giving voters access to a broader swath of ideas.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/13/1214199019/ranked-choice-voting-explainer

ultratiem, to piracy in Several Piracy-Related Arrests Spark Fears of High-Level Crackdown * TorrentFreak
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Hugs mullvad

Flax_vert, (edited ) to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN

How sad do you have to be

jose1324,

It’s not really a group. More of a full commercial organization

flop_leash_973, to piracy in India blocks GitHub, after lobbying done by copyright trolls

Guess Gitlab is about to get a shot in the arm from india.

spiderman,

nahh we would rather use vpn. i have been using vpn for github ever since they have blocked raw github user content.

naeap,
@naeap@sopuli.xyz avatar

So… What’s the purpose of the ban then?
Is this but just totally stupid and implemented completely useless, because people in power can’t grasp what they are deciding on?

HurlingDurling,

Well… yes

ToxicWaste,

That is why IP/DNS blocks should only be deployed to protect the end-user. Never to enforce some kind of law…

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

And let people disable it if they don’t want to be protected/babied.

cupcakezealot, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

imagine if they spent half as much time going after abusers or billionaire tax cheats as they do people who download game of thrones from seven years ago.

killeronthecorner, to piracy in Naver Webtoon: "150 Pirate Sites Shut Down" After Cloudflare DMCA Subpoena
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

150 signs taken down

Whisp, to piracy in Brazil Regulator Claims "80% of Pirate TV Boxes" Were Blocked Last Week * TorrentFreak

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  • dangblingus,

    You could install CF on the android box, install vpn and configure DNS to cloudflare or quad9 or something, install Kodi with the right repos, and have full functionality back

    TCB13,
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    As if 80% of the users would do that. The reality in Brazil might not be what you think, those people aren’t’ tech savvy people, not even close. They’re most likely people who bought a box from someone selling them door-to-door that was it.

    000999,

    generally speaking people who buy preconfigured IPTV systems aren’t able to do it themselves, hence paying money for someone else to do it.

    dangblingus,

    Fair enough. Maybe some slightly more tech savvy Brazilians are reading this right now though lol

    TCB13,
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah but those will get pirated content either way. The problem is the 80% that won’t be able to do it as just trash the boxes.

    Tischkante, to piracy in Gaming Companies Flag 'Highly Skilled Hackers' as Emerging Piracy Threat

    They forgot to flag the 1000s of script kiddies with access to the internet.

    BeardedBlaze, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
    @BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m honestly surprised people still don’t use a seed box…

    spiderman,

    because most of the people only use public trackers and for public trackers you really don’t need anything besides vpn.

    BeardyGrumps,

    What if your seedbox is located in the Netherlands? (Mine is…)

    NarrativeBear,

    Asking the same question as well. What counties would be best to have a seedbox in.

    derpgon,

    Time to get a different seed box, then.

    Rivalarrival,

    As long as the Netherlands have no extradition treaty with your country, and you have no assets in the Netherlands, you should be fine.

    BeardedBlaze,
    @BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world avatar

    Mine is too, I’m not worried ;)

    Kaldo,
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    What are the prices of these nowadays, and how hard to setup? Got a recommendation?

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Depends on how much you are willing to pay for size vs speed vs bandwidth.
    Can become more costly than simply a VPN and a HDD very quick if you want to get into the long term seeding but also getting new stuff.

    BeardedBlaze,
    @BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world avatar

    Depends on which plan and provider you go thru. I’ve been with mine for quite a few years, pay $7.62/month. I get 2TB of storage, 4TB of traffic (if you use ftp/sftp to download/stream your files, it doesn’t count against that, so mine goes all to seeding). Download speed is unlimited, upload speed is 50000 Mbps.
    It’s not hard at all, you have a control panel where you can one-click install your choice of torrent app and web client, then you just use web client (which looks identical to the desktop app, at least in my situation with rtorrent/rutorrent). Other apps available on my plan for one-click install are: Airsonic Advanced, Audiobookshelf, Autobrr, Bazarr, Deluge, Doplarr, Filebrowser, FlareSolverr, Jackett, JDownloader2, Jellyseerr, LazyLibrarian, Lidarr, MariaDB, Medusa, Mylar3, Nextcloud, NZBGet, NZBHydra2, Ombi, Overseerr, Prowlarr, pyLoad-ng, qBittorrent, Radarr, Radarr2, Readarr, Resilio Sync, SABnzbd, SickChill, Sonarr, Sonarr2, Syncthing, Tautulli, The Lounge, Transmission, WireGuard, ZNC. If you want to run Plex, Jellyfin or Emby on the seedbox you’ll have to get one of the higher tier plans. I used to download movies/tv shows over sftp and used to run plex on my home network, but now I just point VLC to SFTP path of the movie/tv show I wanna watch and it streams flawlessly (home connection is 300/10).
    Feel free to DM me if you’d like more details about who I use.

    Kaldo, (edited )
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    Ohh, I had no idea those come with easy installs of the *arr stack. Too bad about jellyfin being locked to higher tiers but manual streaming doesn't seem that complicated either.

    I have a vpn through a proton mail plan but it was giving some p2p errors last time I tried it, maybe setting that up properly would be a better first step if it's possible.

    Thanks for a detailed answer!

    edit: Ahh, proton vpn p2p support is locked behind a higher tier, but at ~$7 per month for a seedbox upgrading the proton package might be a better deal in the end

    jimbo,

    How does a seed box protect your anonymity?

    neshura,
    @neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

    On a seedbox you (usually) have a heavily shared ip. As in shared with dozens of other people. So the rights holder cannot identify who of these dozens of users pirated their content and therefore can’t sue.

    Somebody correct me if I’m wrong

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