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Son_of_dad, to movies in Killers of the Flower Moon Wins Best Film at New York Film Critics Circle (Add'l winners in comments)

I avoided it because I’m sick of the white savior/I can’t relate to a movie unless there’s a white, male character as the lead, bullshit that Hollywood pulls. I know it’s based on a book, but I’m just sick of it, and DiCaprio, I’m sick of that guy being in everything.

caseofthematts,

Clearly you’ve avoided it if you think the film has anything to do with the white saviour trope. There’s no need to get so worked up about something you’ve made up completely.

Son_of_dad, (edited )

Whatever the movie is, the trailer sure as heck set the movie up as a tale of a white man defending the tan people. And yeah I get worked up after dealing with decades of racism and erasure of my people

livus,
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@Son_of_dad I can see why you might think that it's going to be an example of that trope if you only saw the trailer; our expectations tend to colour our interpretation, but no. He's anything but.

Indigenous receptions of this film are very mixed - some positive, some negative, but in a case like this, when there are some Ossage people who consulted on it and are happy with it, I think it's better to keep an open mind instead of dismissing their view out of hand without seeing it.

beefcat, (edited )
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the fuck are you going on about? who is the “white savior” in this movie?

i just watched the trailer, and jesse plemmons isn’t even in it. he didn’t even show up in the film until near the very end.

go complain about something you actually understand instead of whining about the existence of a movie that very explicitly goes out of its way to not do the things you accuse it of doing.

I’m sick of that guy being in everything.

dicaprio has been in 5 movies over the last decade, i would hardly call that “being in everything”.

Son_of_dad,
Son_of_dad,

I guess I imagined Leonardo DiCaprio as the lead

beefcat, (edited )
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He co-stars with Lily Gladstone, he is also one of two main villains (the other being DeNiro).

beefcat,
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tell me you know nothing about the film without telling me you know nothing about the film

Son_of_dad,

Did you see it?

beefcat,
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Yes

Son_of_dad,

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Yet another film where the focus is seeing the pain of people of color through white eyes

BestBouclettes, (edited )

The movie is literally about white people abusing the trust of the Osage, scamming and killing them for their land and money. No white saviour in that.

wilberfan, (edited ) to movies in Killers of the Flower Moon Wins Best Film at New York Film Critics Circle (Add'l winners in comments)
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Best Film“Killers of the Flower Moon”

Best DirectorChristopher Nolan, “Oppenheimer”

Best ScreenplaySamy Burch, “May December”

Best ActressLily Gladstone, “Killers of the Flower Moon”

Best ActorFranz Rogowski, “Passages”

Best Supporting ActressDa’Vine Joy Randolph, “The Holdovers”

Best Supporting ActorCharles Melton, “May December”

Best Foreign Language Film“Anatomy of a Fall”

Best CinematographyHoyte van Hoytema, “Oppenheimer”

Best Nonfiction Film“Menus-Plaisirs — Les Troisgros”

Best First Film“Past Lives”

Best Animated Film“The Boy and the Heron”

Special AwardsKaren Cooper for her five decades of creative leadership as director of Film Forum

brihuang95, to movies in Killers of the Flower Moon Wins Best Film at New York Film Critics Circle (Add'l winners in comments)
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not my favorite scorsese, but it really opened my eyes to an american story i’ve never heard of

FinishingDutch, to movies in Killers of the Flower Moon Wins Best Film at New York Film Critics Circle (Add'l winners in comments)
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Absolutely loved it. Went into it having only the most basic knowledge of the events it portrays. It’s kind of like a reverse murder mystery, where the who, how and why are known and the mystery is whether or not people will get convicted for it…

I loved the length of it, which really let the characters sit and breathe a bit. I was enjoying every minute of it. Heck, I might just see it twice. I’m sure it’ll do well with the awards.

chepox, to movies in Best Movies of 2023 (NY Times)

No mention of Spider-Man Across The Spider verse?!!

How dare you. Best movie 2023 hands down. Give it all the Oscars now and get it over with.

livus, to movies in Best Movies of 2023 (NY Times)
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I suddenly keep seeing Godland mentioned.

spudwart, to memes in 🚂
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A fabric demoistifier.

aaronbieber, to memes in 🚂
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Like none of these people have ever seen a refrigerator before!

DashboTreeFrog, to memes in Official history of the world

Was just having a conversation recently on whether things have always been this close to a complete existential crisis for humans or is the current global situation unique. Most people felt like things have always been bad but I still feel like, with everything going on in terms of global conflicts and climate change, things are uniquely, complexly and extremely bad on a global scale compared to the past.

lars,

things are uniquely, complexly and extremely bad on a global scale compared to the past

I’m with you. But also, has every generation said exactly this?

lars,

Ugh. I totally get it. And I feel like my older family felt the same way about the Cold War. Like can you imagine sitting through Bay of Pigs listening for potential incoming annihilation?

deegeese, to memes in Official history of the world

Ancient Horrors Beyond Comprehension

Fixbeat, to memes in Official history of the world

Remember, they used to prescribe real drugs instead of placebo bullshit. Those were the good old days.

TheBlue22, to memes in Official history of the world

Back in my day we worked 28 hours a day and didnt complain!!

(They put cocaine in coca cola and lead in the water)

lars,

And the… non-WASPs knew their place. They loved it too in fact!

(I’m paraphrasing some actual things that actual people have actually said about the good old days (but I can’t remember their actual euphemisms (dysphemisms) for non-WASPs))

AngryCommieKender,

The ones I grew up around called them heathens.

lars,

It never occurred to me that I should be grateful to have heard “heathen” used only by history professors and sarcasts.

lars,

…and could afford houses and food

lars,

But now I sound like I’m wearing the same rose-tinted glasses as the folks I was making fun of

potpie,

… as long as they were white.

brain_in_a_box, to memes in Official history of the world

"You can’t be angry at the people causing untold suffering, because actual everything’s bad and that’s just the way it is.

VinesNFluff,
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I don’t think that was the point of the post.

It was more “Never fall for a ‘things were good back then’ narrative because actually shit sucked even more in the past”

sooper_dooper_roofer, (edited )

aright cool nothing matters

minecraft

VinesNFluff, to memes in Official history of the world
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It’s true, the past sucked even more than now, and now sucks too, but their clothes were prettier–

Kase,

God, their clothes were so pretty. I can read about the horrors of the past all day, but I’ll always be just a lil jealous of the clothes

pingveno,

You can always wear vintage clothing, you know.

RememberTheApollo_, to memes in Official history of the world

I’m reading The Way We Never Were and it’s amazing how much we get wrong about the good old days.

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
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Ah the good ole days when children and infants were dying left and right, a splinter could mean a slow painful death by infection, and the local doctor prescribes drilling a hole in your head to release bad spirits

flop_leash_973,

Don’t forget the “bloodletting”. Got to get that bad blood out along with the head spirits.

Agent641,

Some people today practice self-trepanation

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