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kib48, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

not sure if it really counts but I like Universal Blue, specifically using their silverblue-framework image because it already has all the drivers and stuff set up for my Framework laptop

kzhe, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

Zorin?

funkless_eck, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

you’ve got a lot of answers, but as someone who started playing around with Linux recently I would say it’s probably better to start familiarizing yourself with some command line operations in windows now.

Do some things like, use the terminal to search for and open programs you need, delete files, even write some basic text documents.

yes, you’ll have to do some googling to work out how to do these things (and why it didn’t work) - and now you’re on the path to linux!

Maybe you’ll even find a way to install a command line browser to look up the answers.

drndramrndra, in I'm so frustrated rn.

I thought I would stick with Debian

There’s your first mistake. Don’t run a server distro on a workstation if you don’t want to deal with it’s downsides.

I haven’t been able to make my printer work in it

Read the CUPS Arch wiki page

do you people think Ubuntu will work for me?

Fuck Ubuntu. Use Mint if you want to try something Ubuntu based.

I’ve recently went through a bunch of stable distros and Nobara had the best experience out of the box.

digdilem,

(Looks at laptop I’m using to reply to this that’s running Debian)

Server OS? Debian? Yes it is, but it’s also a Desktop and Laptop OS and many other things. Everything on this HP laptop just worked, including the function buttons. There’s a reason it’s such a well used distro, and it’s not just because it’s good for servers.

drndramrndra, (edited )

I never said it can’t work, but try using MX for a bit and tell me it doesn’t make Debian much better as a workstation. MX tools are enough of a reason for me to always pick it over Debian in that scenario.

There’s a reason it’s such a well used distro, and it’s not just because it’s good for servers.

What are some workstation specific reasons it’s well used?

I’m pretty sure stuff like function keys are just DE defaults. I’ve installed default gnome and they worked.

The main reason people use Debian, no matter what they use it for, is stability. While it’s great that nothing ever breaks, you’re also receiving nonessential updates every ~2 years.

That’s not an issue on a server that’s running mysql released 7 years ago, but you probably need to use flatpak and guix to keep specific tools relatively up to date. You’re less likely going to need those tools when using a workstation focused distro like Fedora, that’s released on a fixed 6 month cycle.

On top of that, workstation focused distros also integrate flatpak. Since synaptic only knows about apt, MX improves on it by only requiring you to enable flathub as a source to get a unified search/install/update.

Small stuff like that is important for a beginner that’s asking for distro advice. They’ll most likely want to click through a pretty gui, and Debian is lacking on that front because it’s a server focused distro.

MrCamel999, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
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I’ll comment and agree with most of the people who have already commented who recommend Linux Mint. It’s very good for beginners. Alternatively, you can also take a quiz found at distrochooser.de to get an idea of which distros may be right for you.

Presi300, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
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You have a lot of options

-Linux Mint: the default choice, nothing wrong with it, however not the best when it comes to gaming or if you have multiple monitors with different resolutions and refresh rates.

-ZorinOS: Looks good, but can take some time to get used to it and doesn’t have the multi monitor issues of Linux mint, however it is on the heavier side of Linux distros.

-Fedora/Nobara: the 2 are basically the same with one another, but nobara is more gaming-focused. They will also take some time to get used to how they work, but are in my experience generally snappier and more responsive.

No matter which distro you choose, remember, don’t think of Linux the same way you think of windows, think of it as desktop android, as in you download stuff from the distro’s app store and not off of the internet, unless necessary.

pirat,

-Linux Mint: […] not the best […] if you have multiple monitors with different resolutions and refresh rates.

I’m thinking of installing Mint (Debian Edition) on a 2013 MacBook Pro with an even older external monitor connected through DisplayPort, while using the internal Retina as the secondary monitor.

Do you think it’d be a safer bet to go with a different distro with better multi-monitor compatibilities, or do you think I’ll be good using this hardware+software combo?

Any related advice will be appreciated!

Presi300, (edited )
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Don’t get me wrong, it will work, you might just have issues like screen tearing and choppy animations…

I’d personally go with fedora on a laptop, especially for a Mac user as it’s default desktop experience is kinda similar to MacOS, and you get 1:1 touchpad gestures.

WbrJr, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

Everyone has different opinions. In the end the different versions, or distributions, are basically the same.

It starts with the Linux vernal, that as far as I know, handles communication with the hardware, and things like directories, storage, users, permissions. On top of that, every distribution creator puts a destropenvioment, like gnome or KDE (plasma?). Gnome is kinda like Mac is, KDE can be what ever you want, very customizable.

Than there is the package manager. Fedora for example uses yum or dnf (dnf is the new version I think) and Ubuntu uses apt. The package manager is like your app store, that you access over the command line. It is managed by the owners and ist mostly safe to download anything. (Installing Spotify would by ‘sudo apt/dnf install spotify’. So pretty easy to use.

On top of that the distribution has preinstalled programs, like the browser, writing tools, and some useful apps

That is basically the only difference between distros. You can even get different spins of a distro. If you like fedora, get it with the KDE desktro envioment. It’s all the same basically.

So put something on a usb drive and boot from that, try it out for a few minutes and than look at others. There are also websites that allow you to boot into different distros.

If you like something, just install it, maybe as a Dualboot first next to windows (best is on a different drive) and just try it out. If you don’t like it, just jump to another one.

Linux can be a little bit pain sometimes, but in my opinion it’s worth to invest the time. Have fun!

samuelinox, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

My recommendation is to avoid any overly bleeding edge distro while starting out, as when things will inevitably break you won’t have much knowlege on how to fix the issue, and googling it may not always give you an answer.

CookieManTheGreat, (edited ) in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

Mint cinnamon (Victoria 21.2)

Very beginner friendly and has a big community, most stuff works out of the box, steam is recommended heavily as it has a build in compatibility layer (Proton) if you want to check your favorite games check out at protondb.com

Only notable thing is that MS office isn’t working on Linux unless the web app is used (wich isn’t a problem unless you are required by work/school to use it)

kalpol, (edited ) in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

OpenSUSe. Tumbleweed as a rolling bistro is amazingly stable, yast is nice, and it all just works great. Leap for the servers, and things are solid.

Evil_Shrubbery, (edited )

OpenSUSE for me too.

I also switched family & friends to Thimbleweed (since a bit too snappy Ubuntu) & it’s been great.

milicent_bystandr,

I should think so too. A Thimbleweed sounds an excellent plant for an Evil_Shrubbery.

Evil_Shrubbery,

My evil plans have been discovered!!

Regardless the evil plant army must grow. Rolling thimbleweeds are usually our scouts and assassins (rarely kamikaze when on fire, looks cool tho).

What I’m saying is that you better be on the lookout, maybe hide if you see a thimbleweed with a gun or knife.

Dio9sys,

Same. Tumbleweed here. All the benefits of the rpm ecosystem but with less hassle and more updates

milicent_bystandr,

I, too, get my coffee from the rolling bistro.

kalpol,

Loool I’ll leave it

Dirk, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
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You should try Linux Mint. It’s a good distribution for new Linux users. It’s easy to understand, has a good community with plenty of solutions for all types of problems and it is not too specific.

Gaming with Steam on Linux works without any major issues except when it comes to games that intentionally made run on Windows only due to their DRM. I suggest using the Flatpak variant of Steam so you won’t clutter your system with too many weird dependencies.

ParetoOptimalDev,

I don’t know about flatpak. I have a high tolerance for annoyance but configuring flatpak permissions right was annoying.

Dirk,
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I just installed it and never changed any permissions. Maybe you confuse it with AppImage?

qaz, (edited )

Some Flatpak apps don’t have the proper permissions or they can be quite restrictive especially when it cames to file access.

For example; it’s not possible to upload files using Discord from the user home (except a few specified folders). This could be solved with a XDG portal, but most apps don’t bother implementing that.

Loucypher,

Yeah that is annoying. I get that problem with Cryptomator

NOOBMASTER, (edited ) in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

yeah, I’m just here to shill Zorin OS zorin.com/os/

Frederic, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

LMDE, MX, Ubuntu etc are based on Debian. Mint is based on Ubuntu, so Debian. Chimera/Endeavour are based on Arch, etc.

In the linux world, you have a linux kernel, systemd or init, a bunch of gnu utils, a window system like X or Wayland, whatever DE you want (Xfce, gnome, kde, name it) and a packaging system (apt, yum, pacman), but for me, it’s all the same.

If you want something different, try a BSD distro then? FreeBSD, OpenBSD, GhostBSD, etc

TCB13, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?
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Its… Debian.

joyjoy,

Are there even other (good) distros that aren’t based on debian, fedora, or arch?

AceFuzzLord,

Considering pretty much all of the best distros are based on those three, probably the best you’ll get is trying BSD. I can’t think of a single distro not based on one.of the three that is still maintained.

iopq,

NixOS

savvywolf, (edited ) in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**
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I’d second Mint as well (I’ve used it for many years now). Out of interest, what games are you thinking of? Most of them should work out of the box, but with some there can be issues especially with multiplayer ones.

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