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fl42v, in Accurate?

Replace kali with nixos, and it’d be accurate 😁 Also, gentoo.

And Kali is more like “are you older than 13 → no”

cocolopez,
@cocolopez@lemmy.world avatar

Kali is pretty much debian with extra toppings

zalgotext,

Debian with metasploit pre-installed and some fancy shell presets

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

also that random github python script you will randomly need lol

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
vankappa, in You should

don’t do this it INSTALLS MUSTARD GAS !

auf, (edited )

cd ./mustard-gas ; make && make install

TheWoozy,
pewgar_seemsimandroid,

appimage?

ultra,

nix run nixpkgs#mustard-gas

konalt,
@konalt@lemmy.world avatar

sudo apt-get install mustard-gas

magic_lobster_party,

It’s found at sudo snap install mustard-gas nowadays

TheGreenGolem,

NO

LainOfTheWired, (edited ) in Need to switch to Hanna Montana Linux now
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

Just why?

It’s been really sad watching them shoot themselves in the foot like this. They seem bent on destroying their distro. Which was the first distro I really used on an old laptop after trying a few.

Man Ubuntu 16 those were the days.

ininewcrow,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s also amazing they even try because a good percentage of Ubuntu users are likely knowledgeable tech users who like to stay aware of their software. Many of them are probably former or current Microsoft or Apple users who want to avoid big corporate OS systems because of creeping advertising.

agressivelyPassive,

Why? Because it’s working, at least for now.

Canonical has pulled similar shit for years now. Remember the Amazon search integration? They do it again and again, yet most users stay.

And I know, someone will comment “but I totally ditched Ubuntu and my one friend did too!!!”, but how is Ubuntu still the most popular distribution? Finding snaps is easier than finding flatpacks or debs or rpms. Finding support is easier, etc. This might be just momentum, but until that is running out, it’s working.

Rodeo,

He said Ubuntu 16, I believe the Amazon search fiasco was in 2012. He simply hasn’t been using Linux long enough to know that Ubuntu used to be good. His baseline user experience is probably gnome 3.

So he’s comparing extra-shitty Ubuntu to shitty Ubuntu and saying it didn’t used to be shitty.

Fabrik872,

I know that amazon search was there also in 16.04 because it was my first distro and in my country i only briefly heard about amazon so it looked cool to me to have one button to order something but i never clicked on it because i tought it only works in rich countries or something. At that time i didnt gave a crap about privacy i was sold on it because i liked the design of unity and the fact that it looks different than school pcs with windows so it didnt remind me school

LainOfTheWired,
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

Ubuntu actually still had the unity desktop environment when I started using it. And I wasn’t happy when they switched to gnome. Thats part of why I stopped using it

Hubi, in Useless messenger

I wouldn’t install it on my system in any case.

doofer_name,

Same. No sane linux user should.

Und: Hubi ist Linux Nutzer konfirmiert. - 2023, koloriert

Hubi,

👀

Jagermo,

Element one via bridges and run WhatsApp on an old phone - that’s the most I will allow an app from meta in my enviroment

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

But please tell your contacts that you’re using bridges, if you haven’t already.

You are effectively giving away encryption keys to a third party, since those messages need to be decrypted and re-encrypted mid-transit.
Everyone who is part of the chats you use bridges with deserves to know about that fact, at least.

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t like WhatsApp, but some people simply refuse to use anything else (“better”) and the web clients can bridge the gap but it’s extremely annoying not being able to answer a call with a person you are texting

utopiah,

Easy, I don’t talk to such people. They can have my email or phone number if truly necessary. Yes, same for family or work, just not using Meta products for communication. Surprisingly enough people do understand.

nitefox,

“Easy, I don’t talk to such people”

so you don’t talk to most people, outside of coworkers, family and other weirdos

T. Care about privacy, also care about having a social life without being an annoying weirdo

utopiah, (edited )

It’s called having standards.

OK provocation aside yes, you actually have to stand for what you believe in. For some people it means not going to a meat restaurants, for others, like me, it means not accepting a WhatsApp chat or a Google Drive share. You also do that but because it’s either so ingrained or socially accepted you do not even notice anymore. Your standards are definitely not mine but if neither of us do push back, then we as a society go backward IMHO (even knowing my standards are not yours, assuming at least some of us do think and act based on new knowledge rather than random beliefs). So… yes it means my circle of acquaintances is not the most inclusive but I do accept boundaries and if it means someone is toxic according to my perspective, they are out, simple.

PS: you actually have no idea what my social life is. You literally can not judge if it’s “richer” or “poorer” than anyone else.

jordanlund, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Needs a Steam Deck owner in the corner playing games, wearing headphones, and ignoring all questions.

Kedly,

I feel called out

_cnt0,

I might have created this long before Steam Deck was a thing and just reposted it for fake internet points.

possiblylinux127, in Can't relate to be honest, I still use MBR boot

EFI is so much better****

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Not sure if serious.

db2,

GPT you mean. Linux can boot in a non-EFI machine that has GPT disk partitions… Windows can’t because it’s dumb.

Max_P,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

Yes but by doing so you’re using the same principles as MBR boot. There’s still this coveted boot sector Windows will attempt to take back every time.

What’s nice about EFI in particular is that the motherboard loads the file from the ESP, and can load multiple of them and add them to its boot menu. Depending on the motherboard, even browse the ESP and manually go execute a .efi from it.

Which in turn makes it a lot less likely to have bootloader fuckups because you basically press F12 and pick GRUB/sd-boot and you’re back in. Previously the only fix would be boot USB and reinstall syslinux/GRUB.

taladar,

I just had a bug on both of my EFI computers where they wouldn’t boot any more and a grub-install fixed it, apparently the regular update processes do not update the version on the ESP for some reason and my assumption is that it became incompatible with the modules in /boot

Adding an EFI Boot Entry for netboot.xyz after it happened on the first one really helped fix the second one though.

possiblylinux127,

No I mean EFI. It is a much simpler than MBR.

frokie,

I’m not having an AI boot my computer!

droans,

GPT is a partitioning table. EFI is a bootloader firmware interface.

db2,

MBR is also a partitioning table.

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not in my experience… and apparently a lot of people that dual boot 🤷.

My main boot partitions are far from the 2TB threshold of MBR, I’m not that rich.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah cause that’s the only benefit 🙄

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I can’t see any other really 🤷.

m13, in which ones do you think I missed?

None of these people could ever be billionaires. Only a sociopathic, narcissistic mind could ever do what it takes to hoard a billion dollars. Capitalism rewards having a lack of empathy for other people.

LesserAbe, in which ones do you think I missed?

Reminds me of this tweet from Merman_Melville: “Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it’s probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day” The experience itself is probably harmful and changes the person. https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/18e0c77d-e341-4343-bbeb-80a0c47c8be9.png

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Studies have shown that people change at a certain amount of money, like they cross a line in the sand. When you can buy anything everything just becomes yours by default in your mind. And anyone who can’t do that are basically sheep dogs - useful but not worth your time. These studies were done in the twenty-tens and the number then was between 20 and 30 million for most people. Imagine your view on the world if you have 100 times that amount.

blujan,

Imagine 5 thousand times that amount, like bezos or musk

Professorozone,

Whew! Dodged that bullet.

SpongyAneurism,

Lucky you!

FilthyShrooms, in Oh no ...
@FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world avatar

And the other 25% is star trek memes

Vespair,

Well yeah but nobody complains about the frosting on a cake

MashedTech,

I wonder why?

phorq,

The Q continuum is messing with us?

shadearg,
@shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

Not if you punch first.

cows_are_underrated, in Linus does not fuck around

Damn that was probably very hard to read for Mauro. This is something you never want to receive as Mail in your job. On the other hand it is good that Linux priorities fixing the kernel instead of letting other developers fix your code.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E, in Linus does not fuck around

This is hilarious to read from outside, but I am definitely not speaking like this to my colleagues

Lucidlethargy, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

Lol, is this meme for real? Most mac users would never touch Linux. Like, yes, they are both based on Unix… But come on now, this is just intellectually dishonest.

Most Mac users, in my experience, have no idea how to operate anything without an apple logo on it.

storcholus,

I think it still works. The user you describe doesn’t care about Linux, they just don’t like windows. So they would not wash their hands

treadful,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

Linux users are in the (well constructed) tent camp in the local park that Mac users ride their electric scooters past while desperately trying to avoid eye contact.

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Linux users are the homeowners who build and fix everything they can, but look down on people that don’t find craftsmanship fun, claiming that they’re saving money by doing the work themselves. Good on you for having that hobby, but if you don’t enjoy it, spending time to learn those skills costs time that could be spent earning more money than you’d save. Paying an expert to do things you don’t enjoy is usually the cheaper option. They can be found almost anywhere, similar to how Linux users use Apple or windows products from time to time.

Mac users are suburb dwellers who view their way of life as what everyone should aspire to, ignorant to the downsides of sprawl and reliance on cars to go anywhere. Commute times suck, while walkable neighborhoods with public transit make most people healthier and happier. There’s an important classist component, often bundled with racism, that underscores this ideal.

Windows users are people that live in urban areas for work, trying to find reasonable rent or home prices as unchecked capitalism makes everything worse, but unaware why things suck. They get annoyed when people share their passion for handiwork, and dislike suburban folks for thinking they’re superior rather than the downsides to suburban life. However, because most people live this way, and live this way for work, they usually don’t have strong identities like suburbanites or handy homeowners.

Homeless people are those who can’t afford computers, overlapping with actual homeless people, and rural people are those that don’t use computers more than they need to, socializing face to face and literally touching grass.

Nobsi,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Thanks, Jessica.

CynicRaven,

They’re totally, definitely, absolutely not Jessica!

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

This is a very interesting analogy, thanks for sharing

little_hermit,

A lot of software development in a corporate environment is using a Mac as the host. Not to say it’s the target build env. So id say some Mac users know Linux far better than you think. In my experience.

kamenlady,
@kamenlady@lemmy.world avatar

Some, that’s the point

Where i work, we all use macs. I’m the only developer and all others are designers.

They all look at me very oddly, when i open a terminal on their Mac and change some settings from there. They check if my changes are working and still keep that look, like if I’ve done something strange to their mac lol

rottingleaf, (edited )

Generally I agree, but specifically a little fact - the most qualified person at my work is a Mac user.

little_hermit,

My Mac is such a slow piece of shit on Mac OS that it’s nearly unusable without installing Linux.

HouseWolf, (edited ) in Wayland vs X11 be like

As a Linux newcomer the Wayland/X11 thing has been the most confusing thing I’ve witnessed.

Surely the average person will just use what works best on their system at that time? I don’t get people wishing to throw Wayland in the trash or the people who take issue with people still using X11.

Kinda just seems like arguing because you have nothing better to do.

Pantherina,

Just use a Distro that has it preset. Ubuntu, Fedora, I dont know what else.

jasondj, (edited )

Ubuntu LTS and 23.x are both Xorg. Latest has Wayland. If 24.04 is to be LTS though, I don’t think they’d release it with Wayland as default. I’d think they’d switch to Wayland on 24.10 so there’s 3 more releases to get good before the next LTS build.

Pantherina,

Damn… so StudioOne on their “Linux info page” was wrong. They only support Ubuntu (sigh…) but also only Wayland.

A good start for a Flatpak? Maybe if it wasnt proprietary…

jasondj,

Possible I’m wrong? I was going against the Distrowatch details since I was just looking at them a couple hours before I replied: distrowatch.com/table-mobile.php?distribution=ubu…

I don’t usually “trust” vendor support for Linux though…Linux is usually a second-class citizen and “support” means there is either a single grey-beard or an intern that’s answering emails about it. Idk about StudioOne, but unfortunately it’s usually expected to not have feature parity or complete documentation for commercial software on Linux. IME, YMMV, etc.

Pantherina,

They dont support it at all currently but have an experimental version. As if that was too much, with their software costing 200€+

dewritoninja,

I’m pretty sure 22.04 and newer are Wayland.

dewritoninja,

Ubuntu 21.04 uses Wayland by default canonical.com/blog/ubuntu-21-04-is-here

jasondj,

My mistake, then. I haven’t really used Ubuntu much since focal. I was going off the package list in distrowatch.

A7thStone, (edited )

It’s an age old Linux tradition. We argue about window managers, init systems, sound systems, and anything else we can. Often it’s because people have built a hacked together system based on what used to work for them. Relevant XKCD

Pantherina,

Hahaha that damn spacebar heating in KDE 4.2 was really lit

rottingleaf,

And it’s fine when it’s about a roughly equal choice. But Wayland is vastly superior in support and X11 vastly superior in functionality, so I don’t get this argument.

If I could find a compositor for Wayland (and a simple terminal emulator like urxvt, no opengl for acceleration please) as easy and quick to set up as cwm for X11 (with something like dzen2) or fvwm - the issue wouldn’t exist for me personally.

Vilian,

i started using linux 3 years ago because i literally didn’t have nothing better todo ‘-’

TimeSquirrel,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Kinda just seems like arguing because you have nothing better to do.

When we don't have Windows or Mac users to feel superior against, we will invent issues amongst ourselves.

cybersandwich,

Kinda just seems like arguing because you have nothing better to do.

You don’t seem confused at all. You summed it up nicely.

humdrumgentleman,

And, here me out here: this is a good thing. Nay, a beautiful thing. There are no better things to do because these people care and have a voice. We argue about things for years and make slow progress as people agree or capitulate, and there will always be a fork to avoid those changes people care to enough. No one can just buy the Linux ecosystem and make unpopular changes without broad support. I’m pretty sure a negligible number of people have genuine hatred or prejudice for those using a technology they don’t like. The arguing of Linux and Open Source is a reflection of the most successful form of worldwide democracy ever implemented by mankind.

Flaky, (edited )
@Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Welcome to the Linux community!

Seriously, though. Just use what you want (as long as it’s working and supported, of course). Don’t let anyone here pressure you.

Cosmonaut_Collin, in So, timeshift or NixOS?
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

For me it’s installing a new OS every six months for a fun new experience.

Geert,
@Geert@lemmy.world avatar

I have a USB drive bay. Just swap disks to play around with other distros. It’s pretty neat too

Cosmonaut_Collin,
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

Well now I feel silly for not thinking about doing that.

Resonanz,

Me too

Geert,
@Geert@lemmy.world avatar

It actually works quite well. Seperate home partition and off you go 😁

penquin,
@penquin@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Wouldn’t that clutter your home partition since every distro you install has some things to put on there?

Geert,
@Geert@lemmy.world avatar

mv .config .config.old235 :D

lemming741,

I’m distro shopping right now, so I made a large “home” partition, and several smaller OS partitions (GPT FTW!). If I want things to “sync” (Docs, Downloads, .mozilla, .bashrc) I delete the /home/user/Music and symlink it to my /mnt/sharehome/Music .

Cosmonaut_Collin,
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s what I figured you’d do. Thank you for your wisdom.

TheWoozy,

I installed ubuntu on my workstation in 2013 and have upgraded the OS since. I’ve swapped out the motherboard and added 5 drives in raid6. The thing morphed from a desktop into a server over the years. The only original HW is the case (power supply died a few years ago). I never really concidered wiping & installing a new OS.

scytale, in Kinda accurate lol

Second one should be VPN.

LastYearsPumpkin,

Yeah, depending on what you use SSH for, the top two pictures are switched.

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