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ahriboy, in Oh boy, goodie!
@ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Let me clarify, only the Steamboat Willie version of Mickey Mouse characters are in public domain, not the recent versions as Disney holds the copyright. In a few years, more Mickey Mouse shorts will become public domain.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

Personally, I don’t give a shit about whether Mickey Mouse is copyrighted or not. What I care about is all the other works that were kept from entering the public domain because Disney was constantly getting copyright extended.

voidMainVoid,

What’s funny is that Disney built their empire largely on public-domain works (such as fairy tales), but when it’s their turn to give back, they fight it tooth and nail. Classic getting to the top and then pulling up the ladder behind you.

detalferous,

Hard agree

Riven, in I am one of you now
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Shout out to Julia from Drawfee on youtube for the bottom art. It’s Bobby.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

No!! Julia!! That’s Bobby Hill??

NegativeInf,

The room is in shambles.

BloodSlut,

The room full of vampires?

Squid,

I came looking for your comment. Julia birthed a meme

Riven,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

One of many. Merobiba is still one of my faves.

Shady_Shiroe, in Year of Linux on the Desktop
@Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world avatar

If he wants something similar to windows, get Linux mint, it’s the best parts of Debian/Ubuntu but made modern. If you can do it on Ubuntu, you can do it in mint (like online guides cuz mint is based on ubuntu if you couldn’t tell).

Holzkohlen,

Or KDE Neon. Basically Kubuntu LTS, but up to date KDE Plasma and no snaps.

Jumuta,

I started with KDE neon and loved it. For me personally, the weird partial rolling release thing was really nice. I loved seeing YT people talk about the new KDE release and all of its bells and whistles, and being able to instantly play with it on release.

dirtydan, (edited ) in Name em

Name em?

find / -type f -perm -a=x -exec ldd {} 2>/dev/null ;

BeigeAgenda,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

It solves the problem but you get several megabytes of output, better pipe that into a file and do some filtering and finish with sort -u

TootSweet, in Xenia says that it's ok to use any browser!! (original meme)

I had to google a bit to find out if Edge is available for Linux.

It is.

Truly we are living in the weirdest timeline.

baseless_discourse,

And people actually use them.

old.lemmy.sdf.org/post/4334436

ILikeBoobies,
MTK, in Just a PSA

I just shoot myself whenever I want to leave vim

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t need to be so drastic just shut down the electricity by the main switch

vrighter,

you can just unplug your pc: and that way you won’t incur downtime for the rest of the house.

GoosLife,

I rent a place where I don’t have direct access to the main switch, so what I do is I just stop paying utilities until Vim closes :)

EuroNutellaMan,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

Or just shoot the main switch if you at least have a line of sight on it

pineapplelover,

You haven’t shot yourself yet though so you’re still in vim

MTK,

You don’t know!

vsis, in Just a PSA
@vsis@feddit.cl avatar

wrong: you press esc multiple times to make sure you are in normal mode.

treadful,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

At least 3 times. 5 to make sure.

HiddenLayer5, in You should
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

At some point the Linux kernel will be patched to detect and terminate forking attacks, and sadly all these memes will be dead.

Zoidberg,

Just set your ulimit to a reasonable number of processes per user and you’ll be fine.

Cethin,

I doubt it. It’s the halting problem. There are perfectly legitimate uses for similar things that you can’t detect if it’ll halt or not prior to running it. Maybe they’d patch it to avoid this specific string, but you’d just have to make something that looks like it could do something but never halts.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

They could always do what Android does and give you a prompt to force close an app that hangs for too long, or have a default subprocess limit and an optional whitelist of programs that can have as many subprocesses as they want.

barsoap, (edited )

The thing about fork bombs that it’s not particular process which takes up all the resources, they’re all doing nothing in a minimal amount of space. You could say “ok this group of processes is using a lot of resources” and kill it but then you’re probably going to take down the whole user session as the starting point is not trivial to establish. Though I guess you could just kill all shells connected to the fork morass, won’t fix the general case but it’s a start. OTOH I don’t think kernel devs are keen on special-case solutions.

sus, (edited )

You don’t really have to kill every process, limiting spawning of new usermode processes after a limit has been reached should be enough, combine that with a warning and always reserving enouh resources for the kernel and critically important processes to remain working and the user should have all the tools needed to find what is causing the issue and kill the responsible processes

While nobody really cares enough to fix these kinds of problems for your basic home computer, I think this problem is mostly solved for cloud/virtualization providers

NikkiDimes,

That’s why I run all my terminal commands through ChatGPT to verify they aren’t some sort of fork bomb. My system is unusably slow, but it’s AI protected, futuristic, and super practical.

xaxl,

Seems inefficient, one should just integrate ChatGPT into Bash to automatically check these things.

You said ‘ls’ but did you really mean ‘ls -la’? Imma go ahead and just give you the output from ‘cat /dev/urandom’ anyway.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot,

I said “ls” but I really meant “sl”. I just wanted to watch that steam locomotive animation.

Hominine, (edited ) in unplug your primary ssd
@Hominine@lemmy.world avatar

Just here to spread the cult of systemd-boot. Reject the illness that GRUB hath wrought upon our people and extend your mastery over even the bootloader itself.

Windows has no power here.

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

systemd? No thanks. I prefer rEFInd.

possiblylinux127,

rEFInd? No thanks. I prefer Uboot

PlasticExistence,

I just keep that trash OS Windows off of my drives.

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

Bold of you to assume that dual boot is only for 1 Linux distro and 1 Window$. You can have multiple distros. Also rEFInd have an option to boot into UEFI instead of remembering which button to hold. So you don’t even have to have multiple OSes.

Vuraniute,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Uboot? No thanks, I prefer EFISTUB.

TimeSquirrel, (edited )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Uboot? No thanks, I prefer a paper tape loader attached to my serial port.

possiblylinux127,

Paper loader? No thanks, I prefer entering the kernel into memory via dip switches

possiblylinux127, in Cmake me!

I’ll just use make

jimmycrackcrack, in Steve Balmer quotes

On an old coloured plastic iMac too.

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

Herecy

HardNut,

Heracles

Mistrrhappy,

Heresy

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

Hear say

jaybone,

Hennessy

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Hershey

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Those things were so hideous… and I actually thought they were cool at the time… well. Except OS9 sucked balls.

The power mac versions with the pull-to-open side were cooler. Mostly because there was a space above the PSU had just enough space to accommodate a tub of cottage cheese.

Pop it in on a Friday…. You’d be having class…. Elsewhere on Monday…

cameron_vale, (edited ) in A repost from r/linuxmemes - Because I saw the original comic

Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?

It comes with like 6 desktops right in the installation. And there are another 20 more available too.

And ubuntu etc is just debian with a fancy desktop, right?

And debian is fast, lightweight and stable as heck. Don’t they use it on the spaceshuttle?

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

Only moonmen use debian

fosforus, (edited )

Why does anybody use ubuntu etc when they could use debian?

Debian is good, but people working on polishing a thing from 9 to 5, 5 days a week can do a lot.

x4740N,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure they need real time systems on a spaceshuttle

mkwt,

I think the real time requirement can be relaxed for self contained experiment packages. And given that the shuttle ran a healthy number of student experiments, it’s pretty likely that X system has appeared.

I believe crew laptops for email and stuff are also running non real-time systems.

KuraiWolfGaming,

For the main systems, sure. But non critical systems can pretty much run nearly anything.

Prunebutt,

My guess is: Too outdated packages. Debian experimental fixes this, but it’s not noob friendly to enable those. And flatpack is too recent.

camelbeard,

This was the one for me, was running Debian a few years ago, I was really happy with how everything worked.

But at work I noticed a lot of tools I needed where pretty old. Like an old version of maven or an old version of Firefox or npm.

You can probably work around it, but I just went back to Mint again.

Prunebutt, (edited )

It’s gotten better uith flatpak, or if you can handle it: distrobox.

quackers,

because how tf am i gonna install internet drivers without internet.

AnxiousOtter,

Same way you install the OS without internet, put it on a thumb drive.

quackers,

Well sure, but if i have to figure out what to get, where to get it, how to install a driver from a tar.gz file, maybe i just install ubuntu instead.
I opted for fedora instead, until it died on an nvidia update (as every distro inevitably seems to do with me) and fucked off back to windows. Linux desktop has not treated me well so far in any case.

psud,

It will be the non-free drivers package. If installing Debian, also grab the non-free drivers, you’ll need it for wifi

quackers,

yes, but i cant do that without internet is the point

mellejwz,

No need, if Ubuntu works out of the box then Debian also works most of the time. I’ve never had to install drivers for ethernet or wifi. The installer is a bit less graphical, but it will connect in a few “clicks”, even wifi works for the installer.

answersplease77,

ubuntu has firewall protection already to go. I heard if you used debian you have to install UFW or other things on your own

DaBPunkt,
@DaBPunkt@lemmy.world avatar

For what you need a firewall on a desktop-client?

Rooki,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

For everything? You still shouldnt be running all ports open around. As it would ease the work of hackers getting backdoor access.

DaBPunkt,
@DaBPunkt@lemmy.world avatar

So just close the ports (or more precise: Do not open them, as “closed” is the default for most software on Linux).

Rooki,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, and if some bad software wants to create malicious webserver they can not do it as all the ports that are open are used in a legit way. And thus can not really communicate either one or the other way.

DaBPunkt,
@DaBPunkt@lemmy.world avatar

A webserver listens on port 80 or 443. Neither port can be claimed by a normal user (no port below 1024 can). But yes if you manage more than your own user on a desktop AND these other users are not allowed to start programs on their own THEN a firewall can be helpful; but this is not a normal situation for a desktop-client, isn’t it?

cameron_vale,

ok that’s one thing about ubuntu that I didn’t know.

Echrichor,

Because it’s easier, and is more likely to “just work” using only the GUI. That makes it more accessible to people new to it, and as it is perfectly capable once you’re no longer new to it there isn’t much incentive to move away.

Same reason many people choose iPhones, they can just turn it on and use it without thinking or needing to configure it. Meanwhile those with more knowledge who might actively be looking for customisation may prefer another option.

Fungah,

Don’t you just love how with phones you don’t really have one?

Google is breaking their backs locking down Android tighter than a nun’s cooch, and generally enshitifyijg every garbage product they offer. Where’s my third fucking option?

Vuraniute,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Pinephone?

KuraiWolfGaming, (edited )

Probably try a raspberry pi one. Custom built and with a custom OS. Not sure if there is a version of Lineage or Graphene that works on it, but that’s an option.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot, in Linux mint = best beginner distro

Jokes aside, this kind of gatekeeping behavior is what gives Linux a bad name. Also, you don’t have to be a beginner to love Linux Mint.

Pantherina,

You just have to not care about Wayland ;D or modern software

milkjug, (edited ) in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

@OP, join us in Tumbleweed land. I tried arch btw but it drove me crazy. I don’t have endless hours on end to spend on DIY when I am in a hurry to get things to just work™. Tumbleweed with KDE is a refreshing take on the bleeding-edge rolling release distro with sensible defaults and much less teeth gnashing. With arch btw I felt like the whole thing was held together with duct tape and prayers. And I’m certain whatever I did in arch btw, there’s an “ackchyually, …” guy who is going to say that that was wrong.

Pfnic,

I never had a better system for KDE than Tumbleweed. Definitely my favourite “hasslefree” distro up until now.

milkjug,

Tumbleweed KDE gang rise up!

Phanlix,

I’m the same way. I just started using Linux and Landed on Pop!OS. Tumbleweed is high on my short list of things to try, but I finally got everything working, and boy is it working well.

I think the reason is my hardware profile is extremely similar to Pop!OS products, so I just happened to land on something per-optimized for my system out of dumb luck. I’m frankly shocked at how far linux has come. Lutro is what we’ve been waiting for on game installs for better than 20 years. Steam integration is of course nice, but I hate using game stores and hate being locked into that.

Anyways, been a cool experience so far.

milkjug,

Great stuff, welcome to the Tumbleweed club, we meet at the dumpster behind Wendy’s every Tuesday. I tried Pop!_OS for a while and was quite impressed. However I have an irrational disdain for GNOME and Ubuntu so their derivatives are out for me. I hereby declare OpenSUSE and KDE the cool kids club. Tuesdays, dumpster behind Wendy’s.

Phanlix,

lol… the KDE crowd seems really devoted, and intent on snagging a new convert. I’ll give it a shot I’m sure. But I’m definitely saving an image of this just in case.

RageAgainstTheRich,

Which Wendy’s? Would suck to go to the wrong one and end up sitting there all alone.

milkjug,

The one with dozens of us! Dozens!

You’ll know when you see it.

AMDIsOurLord,

Yeah this is true. Arch has lots of small and weird package bugs and breakages it drives me crazy and I used to daily drive that shit (well, both arch and artix) for about 2 years. Changed all my machines over to Debian (used it as a server before) and my life quality has gone nowhere but UP!

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why do I keep getting distro recommendations? I’m content with Arch, despite its problems.

milkjug,

Ackchytually

nogrub,

i went the way of endeavor os back when grub broke and i’m really happy with it

JustEnoughDucks,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Tried tumbleweed on my laptop, bog standard install with only defaults, first update with the GUI, completely deleted all grub configurations but gave no errors or warning on the GUI. Happened twice in a row.

Updating for CLI with YaST had no issues. Wanted to love it, but got a bad taste literal minutes after install.

I am fine on Arch, but I just wanted less hassle and ended up with more hassle. Maybe I will try again soon

crazycaveman,

I just got Tumbleweed set up on my laptop after trying Fedora for a bit. Funnily enough, the thing that made me check it out is CentOS 7 coming up on end of life and needing to find a new distro to switch to for servers. Obviously, would use Leap on the server side, but the rolling release cadence of Tumbleweed was very appealing (have used Arch in the past, but had trouble keeping up with it…). Still feel like I am only using a fraction of what I can with it, though

Amends1782,

Sigh… Another day on lemme, another distro to try lol

rustydrd, in Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

systemd isn’t perfect, but it’s definitely a net plus for me when compared with older init system. In case anyone’s interested, this talk summarizes the key points pretty well: www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo

corsicanguppy,

That’s like saying “I drive drunk but it’s worked out really well for me”.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I’m from the era of untangling hacky init scripts from every flavour of Linux to get something to work or add something new. Systemd was like coming up for air.

ChunkMcHorkle, (edited )
@ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world avatar

This was an excellent listen, thank you for the link. I had no idea what was involved in it when I started, nor the roles of initd and launchd before it and what systemd was trying to replace.

The funny thing is that the guy giving the talk, Benno Rice, is primarily FreeBSD/openRC and not Linux, so he seemed fairly agnostic in presenting the various sides, not just from Unix and then Linux but also from the Apple viewpoint, who have also been playing a kind of parallel but separate role in this.

Very cool. Not a beginner level talk, definitely, but there was nothing I couldn’t figure out coming from Windows/Mac tech. Really informative, thank you again.

rustydrd,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

You’re welcome, glad you liked it!

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