BaardFigur,

Mac: No

m3t00,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

I hired into a community college IT dept ~2000. Manager told me they were a Windows shop. Ha np. I proceeded to replace 3/4 of their server room with Linux. email, cd servers, file servers, web servers, db2, PeopleSoft(gack!). I was working on a cs degree which they paid for about half

PersnickityPenguin,

I did that too, but I came after the guy left and the lady running the department didn’t have the admin passwords for any of the machines. So… When they finally went down, that was the end of printing. I advised her to have the actual university IT department install real managed printers, instead of their windows xp virus infected underpowered computers.

Next day I lost my job lol

sysadmin420,

Username checks out 😁

pete_the_cat,

Windows can’t even install its own old products! I remember back when I had to upgrade systems from XP to 7 and the users needed IE8 in able to use some internal websites. Microsoft was like “Fuck you, you can only use IE9 or above” there was literally no way to download IE8.

I also hate it when they only make shit available through the Windows Store or another convoluted process. No more downloading a simple EXE or MSI and double clicking it!

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Wasn’t IE8 preinstalled on Windows 7? Wasn’t IE9 the only version of IE that wasn’t preinstalled on anything? I’m pretty sure someone (if not you) already downloaded IE9, in that case, I absolutely don’t know how to downgrade versions of IE.

pete_the_cat,

I don’t remember what version it was exactly, this was like a decade ago, but I just remember that I needed the previous version and couldn’t find anywhere to download it.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Still a shame

aard,
@aard@kyu.de avatar

Installing 25 year old binaries on Linux is rather interesting - relevant for stuff like some of the old Loki ports. Problem is mostly that they’ve been written with kernel 2.2 in mind, which does have different behaviour for quite a few things - you generally can find old libc versions compatible with the binary, but those libc versions don’t necessarily play nice with the kernel.

There are some compatibility flags which made things work last time I checked - but not sure if that’s the case, and it definitely won’t work forever, given that 32bit x86 support is likely to be dropped eventually.

umbraroze,
@umbraroze@kbin.social avatar

It's funny, the only Linux software I've ever used that was only shipped as binaries was Loki games. Also, the only software that broke after binary compatibility went south. There used to be a giant tarball of old libraries and jiggerypokery that enabled the Loki games to sorta kinda work.

I was kind of sad to see that Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri didn't run too well, but then I tried to play the GOG version on x64 Windows 11 and there are occasional weird issues. So, eh.

aard,
@aard@kyu.de avatar

There’s a lot of enterprise stuff that only ships as binaries. I had some fun in the late 00s trying to find the most recent distribution still shipping packages for egcs as that was the only compiler supported by the Lotus Domino SDK.

(For the younger ones here: There was some disagreement about gcc development, which resulted in the egcs fork. It got merged back into mainline gcc by he late 90s already, though)

At the time when the Loki ports happened it was a great thing - before that you pretty much had doom and quake available. Nowadays things are better with steam, but it’s quite likely that we’ll see some stuff break there in a few years as well, at least for older games.

SocialMediaRefugee, (edited )

At my job we shut down a system with v4 of RHEL that had an uptime of a few years (we have generator power backups).

noxy,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

my worst day was a RHEL 4 server running COBOL for 911 going down because my idiot former boss didn’t RAID the system volume at all

thankfully I found a matching CentOS 4.4 image and made it work

pete_the_cat,

We have a Solaris 5 server with an uptime of over 5 years a few more were close to that.

m3t00, (edited )
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

replaced a $20,000 cd rack with 15 cd drives + windows os for network sharing, with a desktop PC running redhat(bureaucracy wanted a support contract). Ripped all their cds w/ dd bash script I wrote for automating add/delete cds for the non-cli types.

thorbot,

I tried to install Animorphs Action Game from an old CD I found from the 90s and it didn’t launch. This meme is a LIAR!

JeffKerman1999,

Even games that aren’t that old don’t run. Like fallout 3

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Windows: nope, too old. Find a version that’s compatible with your current installation.

Trust me, I tried playing some old CD games from my dad’s shed on Windows 10 for such a long time, it wouldn’t even let me do that without having to rely on a virtual machine. Most of those games were in French and German, btw.

Dicska,

I mean, I kind of understand with Heroes of Might and Magic 1 or Prehistorik 2 or something. But heck, even Guitar Hero 3 is impossible to install and play on Windows 10.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I originally thought the games were for some reason DOS based (then why are they made for Windows then?), but no. Windows just hates old games.

I even tried compatibility mode, no dice.

UnfortunateShort,

What do you mean? I have yet to find a way to install any game on Windows older than ~20 years.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

windows can install jezzball linux cant. checkmate.

caseyweederman,

NixOS is actually a JezzBall fork

pete_the_cat,

Just for the hell of it I googled it and there is a clone called kbounce haha

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

There’s like three OSS jezzball clones

Conman_Signor,
@Conman_Signor@lemmy.one avatar

Gonna be honest the only older game I had trouble on windows with was Dragon Age Origins. No matter what I did, it crashed out every time

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Dragon age is…. Old?

Origins was released in ‘09. So was windows 7.

Jolteon,

2009 was almost 15 years ago

v4ld1z,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

You take that back

MNByChoice,

Just a blink of the eye…

tryptaminev,

It is closer to the release of the first Doom than it is to today.

FuglyDuck, (edited )
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Uhm. Doom was originally released in 1993. 30 years ago. Dragon age Origins was released in 2009. 14 years ago.

So…
Not quite. got a couple years before that’s true.

FWIW, the first game I beat was the OG legend of zelda. I was 7, it was my dad’s game and i wasn’t supposed to be playing it for some reason. I got caught when my dad was strugling on the puzzles in the water temple and I gave some helpful advice… (“We won’t tell mom about this. now where did you say I go?”)

the first PC game I got heavily into was Age of Empires, though, a lot of my friends played starcraft, and insisted it was better than AoE; so I played one game with them. (They were all so very patronizing… so I let them be patronizing and then turned my ally to hostile and carpet-nuked the entire map.) (yeah. I went back to AoE after that, lol.)

tryptaminev,

my bad. I had 1996 in my memory, but that was the first Quake.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

incidentally, I noticed that the doom comics were issued in '96 when I was double checking my facts. It’s maybe annoying that I’m old enough to remember sneaking a copy of it

Anafabula,
@Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I have seen multiple streamers have problems with it on Windows, but for me it works completely fine on Linux with PROTON_FORCE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE=1 (even mods work).

There is a large address aware (LAA) patch for windows too that fixed it for one streamer, but you have to download a patched executable.

flop_leash_973,

Have you heard the good word about eMacs?

crispy_kilt,

Emacs is a nice operating system. It just needs a decent editor

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

32-bit x86 Haiku OS: is only binary-compatible with a proprietary OS from 2 years ago

Creatortray,

Yes, but as well as the old stuff you get cool stuff like native postgresql!

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