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smotherlove, in what E-Mail provider do you use and why

mailbox.org is quite good. I prefer them over protonmail because I want to use my own client. If you don’t care about using a web UI, use protonmail, otherwise use mailbox.org. you can also take a look at tutanota

poVoq,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Also comes with an XMPP account built in, although they should probably update their Ejabberd sometimes 😅

Gooey0210, in What is your tracker stats?

Tor, metamask, two gcams(no network permissions), librera(i tried avoiding using it because of this in the past), and element, schildi, openweather 1000027182

FriendBesto, in What is your tracker stats?

There are other apps on F-Droid that use Exodus that do sort of the same. At least they do not ask for root.

Lemmyvisitor, in best privacy security based email client that supports third part apps ?

just wanna point out that using a secure mail service won’t help if all your emails are sent to Gmail/Google first and then forwarded to your secure mail

penquin, in Google will no longer hold onto people's location data in Google Maps — meaning it can't turn that info over to the police

Just like that? No catch?

TCB13, (edited )
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

I guess the catch is the fact that they don’t really need it. They have real time location from any Android device anyways (because of that feature that sends the lists of wifi networks around you from time to time), no need to storage the timeline on their servers, it’s only duplicate data. lol

Potatos_are_not_friends,

It was kinda cool for some things.

Like seeing where I went on October 14, 2018.

Or how many times I visited the “Steve’s Spaghetti Store”.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

I like to see how many miles I drove for work everyi month. I drove 2400 miles so far in December

Duranie,

I use it to make documentation easier for work. I have to log visit times, travel time and mileage for each patient I visit. So much easier to pull up the info of my phone after work than to remember to track miles and log time getting in and out of my car.

aniki,

I refuse to believe this isn’t a problem easily solved by a separate app. Perhaps one that even logs to your device only for some additional security.

Duranie,

Well, there is a “solution” in the works. It’s currently not required for my position and will only initially apply to Medicare (or Medicaid - don’t recall which) patients.

The hospital provides field staff with cell phones. There’s an app we’re just getting training on that will time stamp our visits, travel, and mileage, as well as track GPS for verification of visits. It will also flag and ask for clarification if travel time exceeds expectation.

Currently we self report, so if I stop at McDonald’s because I have to pee, it’s nobodies business. Many of my coworkers are less than thrilled with the new app (honestly most aren’t that fond of tech or changes to begin with) even though management is attempting to reassure that they’re really not intending to track us, it’s just for patient verification (for the very small percentage of patients it applies to.)

MonkderZweite,

Or creepy, because others see your timeline too.

korfuri,

As much as I’m careful about Google keeping my data, I have to recognize that this has helped a friend tremendously. He was separated from his ex, she had left with their daughter, and he was trying to get split custody. She testified he was a deadbeat dad, and she put it in writing that he had never been to pick up their daughter at school, never taken her to her regular weekend club activities, etc.

He reached out to me asking if his location history could help prove she was full of shit. It took me an hour or so to figure out the right way to process the data, but then I was able to give him a detailed list of dates and times he had been to his daughter’s school, poney club, etc. His lawyer attached that to their rebuttal. I like to think it made a significant difference. He did get joint custody in the end.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Turn that off with (on pixel / aosp) Settings, Location, Location services, turn both to off.

CaptainSpaceman,

Seems unlikely, GPS data is far more accurate and lots of security minded m people turn off WiFi when away from home but still need gps when out and about

lemming741,

Also Bluetooth scanning. Google trys to dark pattern you in to re-enabling them both, but maps will eventually use GPS if you cancel and try again.

TCB13,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Even Apple is now doing that thing where they’ll re-enable both after a while.

Empyreus,

Is there a setting to turn this off?

TCB13,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

No, your only option would be to move to something like GrapheneOS if you can. Note that other alternativa ROMs like Calyx will also share some location data with some companies.

PeeGee,

State to state, no papers?

Vryoptic,

I think I will live in… Montana.

csm10495, in Google will no longer hold onto people's location data in Google Maps — meaning it can't turn that info over to the police
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

I enjoyed having history in maps on all my devices.

Too bad they didn’t just encrypt it.

jasondj,

It’s not that simple. The user has to hold the key. And with cloud you want it to all be accessible from all of a users devices. And with a public service you can’t count on the user to be savvy enough to use their certificates.

Of course the fix to that is that the key is stored in the account.

But then Google has the key and can decrypt it.

So then the key itself has to be encrypted. And with what? The users weak ass-password?

All encryption has to begin with something that’s known, and the weaker that initial secret, the weaker the entire system below it.

AlecSadler, in Google will no longer hold onto people's location data in Google Maps — meaning it can't turn that info over to the police

Personally, I use GPSLogger from FDroid on a 15 minute ping interval and then load the files into Location Map Viewer (also FDroid) for my own location tracking. Disabled Google awhile ago.

I back the files up to a home NAS.

Cannacheques,

That’s actually a good idea, I might try it

winkerjadams,

Just curious, why do you feel the need to track your own movements?

Cannacheques,

If you have ever lost something and had to retrace your steps it helps but I guess it’s not super important or relatable for most people

winkerjadams,

Ah, makes sense, that’s a use case I hadn’t thought of.

phobiac,
@phobiac@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve used my location history to remember names of places I went to over a year ago, addresses I was given and expected to write down but forgot, confirm for myself I actually went and did something that I couldn’t recall fully…

It’s great for someone with a shite memory.

worldsayshi, (edited )

It’s nice to have a sort of diary sometimes. My only practical application has been to sometimes check which times I arrive to and leave from work when I need to report my hours.

AlecSadler,

Looks like most of the existing replies captured my same use cases!

There have also been a couple of times where my wife and I disagreed about what we did on X day and it’s kind of nice to see who is right 😂

I think I also just like the raw data. I also keep spreadsheets of my utility bills over time, for example, because it’s weirdly fun to look back and see or compare.

One thing I’d really love is a self-hosted all-day heart rate tracker, but have yet to stumble on such a thing.

tgxn,
@tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net avatar

Have you heard of OwnTracks? It’s a self hosted google timeline alternative.

AlecSadler,

I hadn’t! I’ll check it out.

Immersive_Matthew,

With that measure in place, what likelihood do you think Google still knows your location?

Vent,

100%

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

4G masts can triangulate your location quite well based on signal strength and which post you’re currently connected to so unless people are planning on removing their sim the government will always have decently accurate localization.

csm10495,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would imagine without the sim, they could still get the location considering emergency calling would work.

Probably would use the IMEI at that point.

LWD, (edited ) in I learned about startpage recently.

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  • shreddy_scientist,
    @shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml avatar

    There’s proof they allowed Microsoft to use trackers though…I dig DDG as they were one of the first functional alternative search engines to Google with an emphasis on privacy, yet there are much better options today. I’m going to have to peep kagi based on this thread, but I’ll need to be strongly convinced to switch from SearXNG.

    Karlos_Cantana, in Google will no longer hold onto people's location data in Google Maps — meaning it can't turn that info over to the police
    @Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social avatar

    I'm not buying it.

    SuckMyWang,

    What have google ever done to not trust them?

    jennwiththesea,
    @jennwiththesea@lemmy.world avatar

    That means that you’re the product

    silentknyght,

    It’s believable. If 25% of the warrants they receive are for location data, there is a shed load of money to be saved by simply not storing it.

    Probably simple math, whether or not the stored location data is more valuable than the cost of legal compliance.

    originalfrozenbanana, in I don't have anything to hide, so I don't care

    That’s a choice they can make for themselves, not a choice tech companies and governments should make for everyone. If they want to trade their privacy, and I don’t - fine. All I want is the power to choose and know that choice will be respected.

    cheese_greater,

    I love the selfish/enmeshed subtle agenda to that. I will decide and since I believe I’m covered, I required everyone to be compelled into the same dragnet I bless with my consensual presence. We may all be fish but there’s oxygen in heaven/the sky

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  • originalfrozenbanana,

    If they’re not arguing in good faith my advice is don’t argue. Don’t roll around with pigs - you just get covered in shit and the pigs like it.

    mariusafa, in The Boost android client for Lemmy is displaying these dark pattern ads pretending to be system notifications. What security/privacy conscious Lemmy clients do you recommend?

    Use F-Droid, Google store is a malware vendor at this point.

    macattack, in What is your tracker stats?

    Don’t have any stats but I do use tracker control. Having a Xiaomi tablet, I like that I can also extend functionality to system processes as well (at my own risk obviously).

    covert_czar, in What is your tracker stats?
    @covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    You can also try exodus and is more relevant

    exodus

    Maggoty, in The Boost android client for Lemmy is displaying these dark pattern ads pretending to be system notifications. What security/privacy conscious Lemmy clients do you recommend?

    I recommend ignoring update requests when they pop up. It’s not just Boost, I’ve seen so many of those kids of ads now that I just go check for updates through the system.

    HumanPerson, in I don't have anything to hide, so I don't care

    Ask to watch them pee. When they say no, ask what they do when they pee that they don’t want you to know about; that is the only reason they could want privacy, right?

    VerseAndVermin,

    Ask to watch them pee.

    You went weird real quick.

    WhatAmLemmy,

    Ask them to install a camera in their bathroom, and every room of their house.

    After all, if they’ve got nothing to hide, they’ve got nothing to fear!

    ritchie,
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    I always ask if they have a curtain. Why have one, when you have nothing to hide? It blocks the view, sunlight…

    Tar_alcaran,

    That’s a weird question. My curtains make sure I don’t wake up at 5.30am in the summer.

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