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Peaty,

That’s because they often focus on those that just needed a few grand to get off the street which isn’t the cause of most homelessness. We should be doing this for those that need it but a program like this won’t help the chronically unhoused who tend to be mentally ill and/or have addiction issues.

Peaty,

Try looking at who they chose to give money to as they usually are not the chronically unhoused who represent much of the unhoused population

Peaty,

Also the actual research on it is not as rosy as some seem to think.

Peaty,

And giving every person in America 12k/year would cost over 50% of the budget and produce almost no growth unless it was entirely funded by debt.

It might not foster dependency but it would be incredibly expensive.

Peaty,

Do you have a link to the original source or the name of the authors? Neither is in your article only a statement that it was sourced from another site.

Peaty,

30% would count as “much of the population” IMO. I didn’t say most.

Peaty,

Given the results mirror other experiments that target successfully recent unhoused people I suspect they aren’t targeting “the most vulnerable” and that phrase is the author’s choice.

If you work with unhoused people enough you would know “the most vulnerable people” aren’t lacking for money as much as they frequently are fighting significant mental illness. One guy that used to sleep in the parking lot if a store I worked at, Eddie, wasn’t just homeless and an alcoholic. Eddie was incredibly prone to violent hallucinations and handing guys like him $1k a month isn’t changing that.

They are almost certainly targeting the recent homeless who has a job or recently had a job, has a credit history, and the ability to get off the streets and just needs money to do so.

Im not saying we shouldn’t look into this as a solution to part of our unhoused problems only that we shouldn’t restrict other programs meant to address chronic homelessness in favor of this.

Peaty,

We cannot afford to ditch over 50% of the budget to replace it with a UBI that won’t produce much if any benefit?

Peaty,

No Im saying it will provide little to no net benefit to the larger economy whereas redirecting over 50% of the budget to give $12k/yr to everyone would be catastrophic to the larger economy. I suspect the economy tanking would end up hurting more than the 12k helps.

The only way UBI doesn’t significantly harm the US economy, and to be clear Im talking about only the USA right now, is if the payments are either so small they don’t help, the payments are not universal and are targeted towards those that need money, or if the entire thing is financed by increasing the national debt which is unsustainable over the long run. None of these are as beneficial as they seem.

Peaty,

It’s over 3.5 trillion if given to everyone.

Source on the bottom 80% paying most of the taxes please?

Don’t forget redirecting over half the budget to fund a UBI significantly alters the US economy.

Peaty,

Most are homeless doesn’t describe their particular circumstances. There are people living in their cars who have jobs and credit histories who given a few grand can easily not be homeless . That is in contrast with the guy who is incredibly schizophrenic and constantly hallucinating who hasn’t held a job in years. That guy isn’t getting off the street because you gave him cash because he needs mental health care that he might not recognize.

Just saying they are homeless doesn’t describe who they chose and why.

Peaty,

If it isn’t for everyone it isn’t universal. Even at 2 trillion it would devastate our economy. We don’t have that much free money in the system.

Peaty,

Now please provide a source on your claim that the bottom 80% pay most of the taxes as Im fairly certain that is not true.

Peaty,

You made the claim and Im asking for your source for that claim. Do you have one?

Peaty,

Because it is taken from the same economy. If I tax Bill $1 to give Bob $1 we didn’t see any net growth. The only way it produces growth is if we gave Bob $1 but never collected $1 from anyone which becomes unsustainable in the long term.

Peaty,

OP is just posting a meme. It wasn’t their dog.

Peaty,

Please provide them then and make sure they are studying UNIVERSAL basic income and not targeted basic income. If they didn’t give it to everyone and instead selected applicants it isn’t studying UBI.

Peaty,

I always loved hearing stories from kids that spoke Italian at home in NJ who then went to Italy to discover the 1850s era Sicilian they actually spoke was nothing like modern Italian.

Peaty,

Onions makes sense though as cheese, onions and pasta are a normal combination but raisins?

Peaty,

It’s also why Kraft/Mondalez makes the weird flavors for you guys like Pumpkin Spice or Cotton Candy.

Peaty,

Yeah and the credit for WWII should be mostly given to the USSR.

Peaty,

Have you ever tried aging the dough in the fridge for a few days? It makes the oatmeal softer while the outside gets crisp.

Peaty,

Needs dried cherries too.

Peaty,

Sweet and tangy with the presence of acids and moisture from the fruit are a good combo but guess what raisins don’t have?

Peaty,

Fair, didn’t think of charcuterie.

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