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Gen Z in the macro sense is a very prudish generation. It’s weird because they clad themselves in sex-positivity, and are conceptually pro-sexuality, but individually are often quite prudish and reserved.

Very broad brush, of course.

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Things are allowed to just be fun.

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Yes, though the word “gratuitous” is a bit loaded, but I understand that’s just common parlance.

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A pro-Palestinian position is (for now) anti-Hamas and pro-Abbas, supports the removal from Hamas from power, supports Israeli action against Hamas, but decries the limitations of aid or the blockades from Egypt/Jordan/etc against even short-term refugees.

Palestine would currently be a country, for the first time in human history, if Hamas did not exist.

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Amnesty is not a neutral source. They are always biased toward minimizing casualties regardless of political outcome.

Once you know that, and that they aren’t news so much as they cite news, it’s readable.

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radical islamic terror organisation Hamas

This is an accurate, unbiased description of Hamas. They are exactly that, the same way ISIL/ISIS is.

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Hamas is the government in Gaza because they seized power and do not allow elections.

Calling them a radical terrorist organization is both accurate and removes the citizens of Gaza from responsibility for the actions of Hamas.

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A 2 state solution was offered multiple times and was denied because Palestinian leadership had a hard line of Israel not existing.

When a 2 state solution became politically viable in Palestinian territory, Hamas seized power and refused further elections

Just because I don’t know if you want clarity on the whole thing, Palestine as never been a country. It was part of Jordan and Egypt before being lost in the 6 Day War, and part of a chain of empires before that. There was no unified Palestinian identity prior to 1967.

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Yeah definitely. But, they’re a charitable organization focused solely on that and not on political outcomes so I give them some leeway. It’s not like they hide their intent.

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Abbas moving toward the 2 state solution was what led to the Hamas takeover, and violent skirmishes between the PA and Hamas. Specifically their issues were the more secular state the PA favors and that they don’t believe Israel should exist

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I very strongly support this idea.

Use the PPV money to pay for investment in Gaza.

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radical zionist terror organization

Because they aren’t that.

There is no country on the planet that would not respond military to a thousand civilians being murdered via state-sponsored terrorism.

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Didn’t they evidently commit crimes that fall under the umbrella of “terror”?

No. Words have actual meanings.

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less than brilliant

Forgive my ignorance but are you saying London is “not good” (as in the opposite of “brilliant mate!”) or that London is poorly organized/run (I.e. literally stupid, not figuratively)?

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Prohibition has no net effect on demand, it simply enables black markets. Alcohol use after Prohibition was not higher than pre-prohibition, but did rise to the same levels fairly quickly.

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&…

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Targeting something based on race and minority status is not necessarily racism. That’s kind of a bizarre jump.

The groups being targeted with the ban are, coincidentally, the groups for whom smoking rates are highest.

If you want to have the biggest impact, it makes sense to target the groups that are A) the majority of smokers and B) those least well-protected against starting smoking by current initiatives.

FWIW I’m against this ban on pure “people should be allowed to do what they want” grounds, but your specific angle of attack seems ill-informed.

cdc.gov/…/cigarette-smoking-in-united-states.html…

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The same number of people, as a percentage, smoke marijuana as smoke cigarettes. Marijuana use is federally illegal and illegal in most states.

So no, it really doesn’t reduce usage. Price and perceived risk are the two factors that reduce usage the most.

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Supply and demand do not have an inverse relationship. Demand exists, and when supply exceeds demand, prices fall. When supply does not meet demand, prices rise. You understand they are related but forgot the actual curve on the graph. Supply and demand can both be low, for instance, as is the case with mega yachts. Supply and demand have no direct effect on one another, though low supply does tend to encourage firms to increase supply to try to compete and meet the demand.

Data during prohibition is irrelevant to this specific discussion, because your claim is that demand goes up when goods are prohibited, which is false, as I showed with my link

I don’t believe you have actually taken Econ 101, given the things Ive seen you say here.

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The important part of that link was not during prohibition, which is irrelevant, because regardless of demand the number of people with access to alcohol was lower, but rather that after prohibition, usage rates did not surpass pre-prohibition levels.

When supply does not meet demand, prices rise

This is not an inverse relationship between supply and demand. The supply is not affecting the demand, which is what “inverse relationship” requires.

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This is not an expression of an opinion. These are statements of fact. As in our other discussion, I am simply explaining things to you.

You not liking these facts does not make them less true.

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Maybe read to the end of that sentence and it will make more sense. I know it was a long sentence, and that’s scary, but I believe in you.

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Would you like a citation on what Pigouvian taxes are, how the cigarette industry is flooded with competition, or that putting further regulations on products makes them more expensive to produce?

I assumed you could Google any of these but I can do it for you. Fair warning, you’ll be getting a “let me Google that for you” link.

Not one of these facts is even remotely controversial so my mind is a bit boggled that you’d even try to contest any of them

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I don’t understand why you refuse to engage in good faith with a person who is just trying to teach you things, but now this conversation is over.

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brutally logical

No it’s totally unrelated to the discussionl. I think your objection is very poorly thought out.

I used to smoke menthols and I’m white as the driven snow my man. Nothing racist about targeting the cigarettes preferred by the people who are majority smokers by percentage.

I also think “this doesn’t effect me so I don’t care” is a poor way of looking at governance.

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Yeah that’s because of aforementioned Pigouvian taxes. The entire point is pricing some people out of purchasing them.

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