I originally posted this on the other site back when I took the picture, and it resulted in a lot of confused comments, especially from Americans, eventually getting removed by overzealous mods. Either way, I promise you that this date does not exist, and has never existed.
When was the last time you spoke a date in ISO format? Do you say “2023 February 29th?” If not, you intrinsically know ISO is not always the best format for the situation.
When was the last time you spoke dates to anyone in ISO? If you don’t ever say the year before the month and day, then you intrinsically know ISO is not always the best format for the situation.
I’m not implying you can’t say “of” in English, but it’s common (and shorter) to say “Feb 29th.” It is not however correct to say “Feb 29th” in many other languages, which is why Europe made day first dates the regional standard. And just like with the imperial vs metric systems, England has shifted to more often use Europe’s standard rather than the one they came up with themselves.
I am familiar with the ISO format and use it every day. But let me ask you, do you speak dates in ISO format? If not, then you understand it isn’t always the best format for the situation.
The comment I was originally replying to was talking about the two most debated formats while ignoring ISO for “non-technical” people. Those two formats are that way because of the way people most commonly speak it in the region where they originated. I agree that the best written format is ISO, but it’s not commonly used outside of technical circles because it requires that you say it in a different order than you read it, which proves difficult for a lot of people.
It’s about the correct standard, which if exists, should be the same whether spoken or written. I’m saying that no such standard exists, and there are different correct ways depending on the situation/region.
I’m so tired of this “proper order” date debate among regions. Can’t we just accept that there can be more than one correct way to do things?
We commonly write dates 02/29/23 because we speak or write “February 29th 2023” while in other languages, it’s customary to speak or write “29th of February 2023” leading them to the common format 29/02/23.
Edit: to curb the ISO standard comments, yes, that is the most efficient and organized way to write a date, but how many of you speak dates in ISO format? If you don’t commonly say “2023 February 29th” out loud, then you intrinsically understand that not all situations call for the ISO standard.
I completely read/watched the two links you provided (because I’m more interested with learning where I’m wrong than with being right), but it is now clear from your more elaborate reply that you did not even bother. If you had, you’d realize that your first link specifically mentions the exact situation that I called out.
Your wiki link states that the weaving problem “is most prevalent either where the junction designer has placed the on-slip [on-ramp] to the road before the off-slip [exit] at a junction (for example, the cloverleaf interchange), or in urban areas with many close-spaced junctions.” It makes it very clear that the cloverleaf presents just one example of the weaving problem, and the other example mentioned in the same breath is exactly what I presented to you.
Your YouTube link also explains that the smaller the cloverleaf, the more dangerous it is, and it says making the loops larger is better but not always possible because of the amount of land they take up. That’s why I have always noticed smoother weaving at larger cloverleafs like often exist in Texas rather than at a smaller cloverleafs that you often see in dense urban areas like in the northeast or western US.
Your one word answer didn’t make your ignorance clear, but now it is absolutely crystal clear that you either couldn’t be bothered to check your own bias with the links you shared before telling me “no” or you’re just trying to gaslight me in order to troll my downvoted comments.
Either way, whether you like it or not, the evidence you provided proves my point that the weaving problem is not simply a problem with cloverleafs but with all high speed junctions that are close together. It is not an inherent problem with cloverleafs entirely but the distance between on and off junctions.
But whatever your intentions, thanks for your links anyway. I did learn something and more than anything, they showed me that I’m already familiar with some of the alternatives to cloverleafs that I had always thought of as “modified cloverleafs.”
But isnt weaving a problem with any exit that’s immediately following an on-ramp rather than an issue specifically with cloverleafs? Pretty much every exit/on-ramp combination in the dense cities that i know has this problem of needing to weave into traffic so that you aren’t forced to exit at the next exit, all while others are trying to weave from traffic into the exit.
Sounds like the danger you’re describing is a problem with all exits and on-ramps since all allow faster traffic to exit and slower traffic to enter the highway. I’m confused as to why it would be worse with cloverleaf as long as all of the exits are right exits. In my head, the dangerous merges are the left side on-ramps since you’re required to merge into the fastest traveling lane.
Yeah. That’s how cloverleafs look. Is this the first time you’ve ever seen one? In case it is, they’re incredibly common and the most efficient and safe way to allow cars to go all directions without any stoplights at an intersection of two highways.
Yes, it is more common to have them be in a single direction, but the extra lane and bidirectional traffic doesn’t make it look any less like a leaf of clover.
FYI not every bucees is the size of a department store, although most of the ones they’ve been building along interstates over the past 10-15 years definitely are.
There are plenty, especially near Lake Jackson where they are headquartered, that are the size of a regular gas station.
You should buy a dehumidifier because your room is too humid which promotes mold growth. If your windows are constantly showing condensation, it’s likely your walls are too, and mold inside your walls can lead to all sorts of health problems.
Sounds like you need to use lotion instead of a humidifier. I don’t have this issue, but I dated someone who did for a few years, and once she started using lotion, she was able to deal with the dryness that always accompanies the cold.
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I originally posted this on the other site back when I took the picture, and it resulted in a lot of confused comments, especially from Americans, eventually getting removed by overzealous mods. Either way, I promise you that this date does not exist, and has never existed.
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