Part of me feels like it's the subreddits fault. There should've been rules against articles/tweets that aren't timestamped. Specifically for reason of ensuring relevance
This was definitely a thing long before the blackout
I really like the speed and overall clean user interface here. I am still learning, but so far I like what I see. Hopefully, we can all grow together into one thriving community!
Reddit is too popular and has too much group think, too many of the same types of comments that will get a lot karma, and too many comments that will just be ignored.
NEW is a garbage dump or a pile of duplicates. So why comment on a new post? It will never go anywhere. HOT is already full of comments, so your comment will just be lost.
The karma system also gamifies trying to find a variation on the same thing as always. You’re not trying to be clever or unique, or bring new perspectives to the conversation, you’re trying to be the first person to say the thing you think everyone else is going to think of
I’m constantly seeing posts about how much nicer kbin is, but I’ve also seen a “KYS” comment and personal insults towards people. I also recognize it’s possible that there are fewer nasty comments, that the ones I see are just outliers but I’m more likely to notice them here instead of just downvoting and forgetting because the posts about how nice kbin is are making the counterexamples stand out that much more.
thats crazy. im very active on here as my profile can tell and other than a run in with an alt right person on one thread, i havent seen anything bad. of course, as it gets more popular, this will increase, but for now its pretty nice
Communities are going to have to start actively moderating and removing blatant abuse like that. I haven't seen very much, but ultimately, we cannot rely solely on votes or people simply being nice forever. It's always a touchy question, but every community ultimately has some standards of acceptable behavior, and it'll take time for us to figure out what ours is.
To be fair some instances (like Beehaw) defederate for not being big enough to maintain a huge influx of users. It isn't always about Nazis although for sure Nazis suck I agree with that!
Sure, but anyone complaining about defederation in the context of "group think" probably isn't thinking about how much it sucks that small spaces can't moderate well enough.
Like literally these people are all like "FrEe SpEeCh" like dude if you wanna be a Nazi go be a Nazi I'm not gonna stop you but I'm definitely not gonna support you in it. You will get a hearty kick to the nuts if you approach me with it but like you do you
I would typically only engage with new posts, but in two places. One was some smaller subs where there was going to be more opportunity for discussion between everyone, and two in the larger subs would be breaking issues where new was by default and it was more group observation of the events going on in real time.
It was pretty clear to me, that’s why I stopped going.
It was getting toxic a long while back, but I was ok with that – I just deleted my account every few months so I wouldn’t get doxxed. But then I started to realize 2 things: First, many subreddits wouldn’t even let you post without a minimum amount of karma. Second, many subreddits would downvote you into oblivion for any sort of wrongthink.
Don’t get me wrong, I know I’m a wierdo and I have some bad takes sometimes, but you put bad takes out there to put them in the fire and then you get to see they’re bad or you hammer them until they’re good. But in the echo chamber, there was only one answer: Obey.
I got a science degree in the late 90’s. Back then my eco profs talked about a lot of worst case scenarios that might occur in 2050’s and beyond. Things like the break down of the mid-atlantic conveyor current, the collapse of the antarctic ice shelf, weakening of the air currents that feed the amazon with sand from the Sahara, and sudden drops of sea life populations (like crabs). Things that are all actively in progress now - 50 years ahead of those “worst case scenarios” of the 90s. Oops was a while back.
Oh yeah. I’m loving it. I feel like my comments and posts get a lot more attention and the engagement is a lot better than Reddit. It definitely feels like a community is brewing but I’m loving the increased interaction.
I had noticed a sharp decline in quality. It was a kind of frog in boiling water situation, where more and more content was from Twitter, tiktok, poor ragebait about us politics....
I remember I went to reddit because that is where content from other platforms had originated. That stopped at some point
I don't think the quality of the front page changed all that much in the last month.
It has long been screenshots of twitter (primarily WhitePeopleTwitter, BlackPeopleTwitter) for years, at least since 2016.
Also short form video is all the rage and Reddit is really pushing it, but that basically means it's just all TikTok re-uploads (or crops of TikTok, or crops of TikTok of crops of Youtube). The new Reddit video player is really mostly screen recordings of things.
The last year or two once Reddit became really really mainstream has had a lot more repost bots though. They basically do two things: farm small subs and repost their content into larger ones, or pull content from the front page from 6+ months ago and repost it (even the top comments are often blatantly reposted). The bots coincide with reddit getting more into ads and mainstream advertisers.
But, there have been prolific reposters like Gallowboob for many many years.
I don't think the quality of the front page changed all that much in the last month.
I don't know. I don't think I agree. I've been seeing a lot more truly garbage-tier content on the first few pages of r/all lately, from some really weird, never-before-seen, garbage-tier subs. Half of them I don't even know what they're supposed to be about. What the fuck is a Honk Star Rail? Where the fuck did Pop Culture Chat come from? Who the fuck is Peter, and why is he explaining jokes? I used to doomscroll down to page 8 or 9 before I started seeing weird stuff like this, and now it's right there on page 1. In the past, when I started seeing that weird Taylor Swift Simp Cult sub, I knew I'd been on reddit too long. Now they regularly show up, if not on page 1, then high on page 2.
Along with the r/AmITheAsshole scab copy sub, r/AITAH, which somehow managed to make it to the front page in record time after it's creation, even though it has about 9% as many subscribers as the original did.
Hell, some of these posts on page 1 of r/all only have 1500 upvotes. That's insane.
I suspect that I'm amongst the majority here in that I still use reddit as well as Kbin - at present the fediverse front ends just need time to introduce features to make them more usable.
I don't think it's a question of enough people ditching Reddit, but just enough to create and/or provide quality content.
And really that doesn't matter as much as participating in a platform that's free of all the BS Reddit evolved into. Fediverse has a platform free of almost everything long term Redditors came to hate.
If you're expecting everyone to leave Reddit, you're going to be disappointed. Most Reddit users do. Not. Care. They'll stay for as long as Reddit entertains them.
The Twitter migration was actually a really great thing for the Fediverse. It diversified Mastodon, and made it an actually lively space. It's still a nerdy space, but it's so much more than it was. It's a genuinely general and engaging microblogging space. And while, yes, it doesn't have everything that draws the Twitter clout chasers, celebrity watchers, and journalists or politicians, it's a viable alternative for people who are looking to actually engage with each other.
The same is true here, and will be true after tomorrow.
I personally love how inclusive everyone (at least 99%) here is and I am personally fighting very much to keep it that way. Although I am white and only an ally and thus not part of LGBT myself, even I feel much safer here although I wouldn't have much to fear on other websites myself.
Twitter as a social media discussion platform is trash. Mastodon suffers from the same issue. The reality is those kinda of platforms rely on central figures (ie. Celebrities) to form interest.
A forum-like experience (ie. Reddit) is more reliant on community and discussion. So platforms like Kbin and Lemmy have a much better chance of gaining more traction.
Underrated reply. Twitter is definitely a place where a bunch of people follow a small group of famous people and content creators almost like lemmings. (The irony that lemmy isn't like despite users being called lemmings isn't lost on me)
Mastodon is a bit better, but also strangely seems to be focused on big names and groups as well, just different ones and to a lesser extent. It's one of the reasons I spend less time on there and more on Kbin / Lemmy.
On the positive side, it's from Mastodon that I learned about Kbin and Lemmy to begin with.
Twitter‘s real world relevance is highly overvalued. Journalists who practically live there instead of doing journalist stuff elevating its cultural impact manifold. Mastodon shows how much of this impact is lost, if there aren’t enough promoters. The grassroots picture Twitter painted of itself wasn’t ever close to true, it was just a single-way microphone for narcissists. Reddit‘s cultural value is highly underrated in comparison and I believe a good alternative can catch enough nexus posters who will keep good content coming. As with every FOSS project the biggest enemies of success are the people within. Lemmy (as Mastodon) has a lot of difficulties with fracturing due to its federated nature and the differentiation between kbin and Lemmy is already divisive for the community. I hope the more technical minded audience of Reddit is able to overcome these barriers for entry and find a new home here.
I kinda dislike it, honestly. I'm so used to constant withering hostility that the lack of slurs and snide insinuations about my parentage is genuinely kind of uncomfortable.
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