The way they've handled this whole situation heavily suggests they don't want a fair share of the revenue from third-party apps, they want those apps to die. Especially considering how aggressively the official app is pushed on the mobile site, which is now borderline useless. I'm guessing it slurps up a lot of sensitive, monetisable data that third-party alternatives don't send them.
I had reddit premium before, and I'd have picked it back up in a second if it had been the cost to keep using RiF. Shame that they never intended to allow 3rd party apps to keep going. They're going to hold Narwhal up as an example that they're working with 3rd parties while doing nothing of the sort in any real terms. They'll likely turn the screws so hard on the Narwhal dev after the heat cools that Narwhal dev is going to wish they had just bailed before Reddit bent them over the barrel.
Reddit must be laughing hard. They wanted to kill off all 3rd party apps but are now going to make a nice buck while still achieving allmost the same. Well played... well played...
I wish the narwhal developer luck, but I just imagine his math is off, and when the time comes for a big world event, where power users will be F5-ing and interacting through the app, Reddit will fuck him hard on the pricing. Additionally, power users are going to be his primary audience; after all, most people know the official app sucks, but only the most dedicated will pay for something different. It just doesn't seem feasible.
That’s a bargain. Individual replies are $1.49 each. That’s like getting two free replies. Or getting two edits on your three comments, since I world expect an edit to be billed the same as a comment in the new api costs. ;-)
Who cares, narwhal app sucks narwhal 2 is probably promising. they will change or the price will fluxuate depending on the api calls power users use. What's the point. you will be browsing and worrying about rate limits and if you have to pay more even though you just paid for the subscription.
I am hoping that the new users are coming here with the intent to learn how this community works, before we try to remake the community we just left.
I counter this part of your post by throwing in there that for me and my time on reddit, the worst parts of the broader experience were the fact that communities of neo-nazis (r/conservative, r/conspiracy), Donald Trump cultists (r/the Donald), incels (numerous subreddits including r/incels and r/theredpill), and pedophiles (r/just18 among other porn based subreddits that were quarantined and banned several years ago) were allowed their own communities on the platform for as long as they were. This gave these horrible ideas time to draw attention and build a userbase that then degraded the quality of reddit across multiple other communities.
If kbin or lemmyworld immediately start banning or defederating these instances or communities/magazines, then to me that is how this larger community works and it is inherently not former redditors migrating here to shape the Fediverse in the image of reddit.
I eventually couldnt even browse r/all without seeing bigoted and generally fascist remarks getting thousands of upvotes with hardly any people that debated their takes not getting two to three digits of downvotes.
Ehh, don't interpret me as being in favor of HOAs, but like, if $3 helped me connect with a huge userbase over the hobbies I enjoy, I'm willing to pay it to live in a gated online community.
My hobbies are not tech related. I have not found a new home or sense of community on kbin. That's just the reality of what I've lost by boycotting reddit on principle. In my offline world, I have paid to be a member of hobby communities just to offset the costs of organizing events and reserving group spaces. Arguably, I'm paying for the privilege to go there and "share content" through my presence. This isn't a big deal to me if I'm engaging the platform.
$3 would be a steal if I were a power user. $3 might be not worth it if I'm just a lurker.
Didn't realize a refund would be a reverse payment, although that makes sense after thinking about it. Not as big of a problem to face if a developer is given more than 30 days to shut things down. Can he seek financial damage for Huffman's rash and illogical decision? Probably not, but not a lawyer.
While I don't doubt people's intentions are well, I feel perfectly capable of deciding myself what should be defederated or not. Currently using kbin.social. Any resources for people interested in learning more about this and potentially wanting to host their own instance (which I assume you'd need to, to be able to control this?). Or maybe there are already instances out there that don't defederate and leave it up to the individual?
Or maybe there are already instances out there that don't defederate and leave it up to the individual?
It only takes one to defederate. Any large instances that stay neutral will eventually be defederated with by other instances, as per the beehaw example recently. So your best option would indeed be to host your own small instance.
You’re all good! I’m also an Ultra + Pro user and there’s no refund needed. Apple treats that kind of transaction as a one time payment. It’s only those who subscribe for a set amount of time (month or year) that are offered refunds.
Yes, not everyone is going to get the news that it's turned from a loss of income into a debt due to the nature. And dare I say there may be some out there who would still consider it as "he knew what he was getting into", although I hope that's a very small percentage.
I think that given how forthcoming Christian's been with this entire situation, if he were in a position where he could not feasibly put up that 250k it would be communicated. It's no small amount of money, sure, but I think he'll be alright. I can't speak for anyone else, but if I was someone with an Apollo sub, I would refuse the refund without even thinking about it. Hopefully a large percentage of subscribed users agree with that sentiment, and in that case the cost should drop substantially.
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