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Madison_rogue, in Threadiversal Travel - A guide for Lemmy, Kbin and general Reddit off-ramping
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@shellsharks

You could also add the Artemis mobile app which is in development for kbin. More information here!

SandwichStan, in Threadiversal Travel - A guide for Lemmy, Kbin and general Reddit off-ramping

I really Lemmy and Kbin. Both provide solid desktop experiences and app development is only accelerating.

One thing in particular I am having a hard time with is discovering communities. I know there are a couple websites dedicated to this but discovery on both Lemmy and Kbin is not very easy. This becomes compounded by the fact that some communities have fractured across numerous communities or magazines. Referencing different communities/magazines is also was more annoying than doing /r/dancing or whatever.

Is there a solution to these problems?

MiddleWeigh,
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I haven't had a problem ftmp. I sort by all>new/top day/hot/active and subscribe to what interests me on a whim.

Then if there is something specific, say poetry, I type "poetry" or "poet" in to the search and I get all the communities with that in the name. Subscribe. All of em.

Over time I naturally have a feed of my own making.

But right now, I am just sorting all and collecting communities and talking to people, and when finally there is more people, I will sort by subscribed.

I think the issue is just early stage social media being built ground up, and we're all still figuring out what this place is even gonna be.

throwmeinthekbin,
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This is what I am doing too and think it is the way to go.

You wouldn't catch me dead sorting by r/all on Reddit, but I have been doing so on kbin to just see what is out there and subbing to what is interesting. I also have been searching for various magazines/communities and subbing to a bunch of them since I don't know which one will take off. Eventually I have hope i'll have an active enough feed like I did on my homepage on Reddit, but I'm cool waiting it out and just seeing what sticks on the fediverse.

AbaixoDeCao, in Threadiversal Travel - A guide for Lemmy, Kbin and general Reddit off-ramping

And in every 10 posts that I read, 8 are about Reddit...

yunggwailo,
@yunggwailo@kbin.social avatar

block the reddit related mags/communities then

TheSpookiestUser,
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Give it time. People are obviously gonna want to talk about how bad the place they just left is in the short term; it'll die off as time goes on, flaring up occasionally when Reddit makes another blunder.

apemint,
@apemint@kbin.social avatar

Yup, the same thing happened when we moved from Digg to reddit.
There were 2-3 weeks where the death of digg was every other thread but then it tapered off quickly.

That being said, I think this whole reddit fiasco will drag out longer.

kurgal, in Reddit is not a safe space

It will never be a safe space as long as spez is around

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@vlemmy.net avatar

It will never be a safe space as long as spez is around

period. Centralized systems like Reddit are inherently beholden to the views of the people who own the central hub. Even if the people at Reddit now were “cool”, eventually a piece of shit would end up in a position of power and compromise the site. As we have seen time and time again, both recently and throughout history, we cannot allow our systems to be contingent on the assumed goodwill of the people who run it. Said differently, we need to assume that bastards will take control at some point in the future, and intentionally design our systems to be robust in the face of disturbances caused by bad actors.

DarthYoshiBoy, in iOS Reddit app Narwhal not going anywhere
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Fairly incredible to me how many people over there are frothing to be the small pool of users that Reddit holds up as the token representation of 3rd party app users that they didn't kick off the platform which totally means they actually were willing to work with app makers after all. 🤞

Just mind blowing: https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/getnarwhal/comments/14kt9wj/narwhal_is_not_going_anywhere_subscriptions_and/

Juanma, in Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social): "Really Important Apollo Update...."

Lifetime Ultra user here, I hope most people opt out. Such a shitty situation, hope reddit suffers the consequences.

detwaft,

They won’t in the short term.

In the long run they’ll hopefully go the way of myspace/digg.

It takes a long time for a juggernaut to die. They can circle the drain for years

Spiritsoar, in Threadiversal Travel - A guide for Lemmy, Kbin and general Reddit off-ramping

As someone who is just now looking for Reddit alternatives due to the impending death of RIF, this is a very helpful breakdown.

877, in Christian is releasing the final update for Apollo, allowing users to opt out of the refunds

I was first gonna call him moneygrubby but man 250k. I would be sweating and crying. Imagine making an app only for it to anus you in the ass, all of the effort evaporated and swindled.

Dude is gonna have to work overtime like the dude that bricked people's switches.

darknavi, in Christian is releasing the final update for Apollo, allowing users to opt out of the refunds
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Class act.

I donated a few bucks to get the wallpapers because Christian is a boss but them all being Snoo-based I just couldn’t find my self to use them.

mark_hamill,
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Same, my hope is that with people opting out and the wallpaper he shouldn’t have to pay much, if anything, out of pocket.

877,

He is still gonna have to pay an ovscene amount of money, that app is going to put him in debt.

Rhaedas,
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

Yes, not everyone is going to get the news that it's turned from a loss of income into a debt due to the nature. And dare I say there may be some out there who would still consider it as "he knew what he was getting into", although I hope that's a very small percentage.

ztb,
@ztb@kbin.social avatar

I think that given how forthcoming Christian's been with this entire situation, if he were in a position where he could not feasibly put up that 250k it would be communicated. It's no small amount of money, sure, but I think he'll be alright. I can't speak for anyone else, but if I was someone with an Apollo sub, I would refuse the refund without even thinking about it. Hopefully a large percentage of subscribed users agree with that sentiment, and in that case the cost should drop substantially.

oliver, in There's no karma? [OC]
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Karma exists, it’s just hidden yet in Lemmys interface, but available via API. Kbin tells it to it’s users.

Eggyhead, in Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social): "Really Important Apollo Update...."
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I just went through and unsubbed 90% of my subs. Now when I go on reddit to check something, it’s just too boring to stick around for long.

I wonder if Christian will implement an account nuking or overwrite feature or something in his last update.

CookieJarObserver, in Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social): "Really Important Apollo Update...."
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RIP. kinda sad he didn't turn it into a lemmy/kbin client.

FaceDeer,
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There's a client named Artemis under development that's heavily inspired by Apollo, don't know if any devs are crossing over though.

hariette,
@hariette@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for the shoutout! App is coming along!

a video and pics of current alpha build.

And see this toot, of me having fun with force touch to preview links :p

soda3x,

is artemis going to be on android?

RheingoldRiver,

Not hariette, but yes it will! I am currently testing it on android :)

Pankakke,

Yes! Artemis is being developed for both iOS and Android.

kratoz29,

There is also this awesome web app

wefwef.app

FIST_FILLET,
@FIST_FILLET@kbin.social avatar

holy shit this is perfect, i pray they add support for us kbin accounts to log in

kratoz29,

Talk with the dev, maybe he adds it :)

SLaSZT,
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Doesn't seem to work with kbin.social. Artemis is the only one I've heard of so far that is actually supporting kbin and it's not ready yet. ;n;

Jcb2016, in Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social): "Really Important Apollo Update...."

WTF! I payed for pro and ultra and i deleted my account already lol

Teal,
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You’re all good! I’m also an Ultra + Pro user and there’s no refund needed. Apple treats that kind of transaction as a one time payment. It’s only those who subscribe for a set amount of time (month or year) that are offered refunds.

Bonehead,

That just means you've donated your refund to a good cause.

AZHWG, in banning and defederating communities

While I don't doubt people's intentions are well, I feel perfectly capable of deciding myself what should be defederated or not. Currently using kbin.social. Any resources for people interested in learning more about this and potentially wanting to host their own instance (which I assume you'd need to, to be able to control this?). Or maybe there are already instances out there that don't defederate and leave it up to the individual?

wahming,

Or maybe there are already instances out there that don't defederate and leave it up to the individual?

It only takes one to defederate. Any large instances that stay neutral will eventually be defederated with by other instances, as per the beehaw example recently. So your best option would indeed be to host your own small instance.

Rhaedas, in Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social): "Really Important Apollo Update...."
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Didn't realize a refund would be a reverse payment, although that makes sense after thinking about it. Not as big of a problem to face if a developer is given more than 30 days to shut things down. Can he seek financial damage for Huffman's rash and illogical decision? Probably not, but not a lawyer.

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  • Trebach,

    If Christian made business decisions based on promises made by Reddit which they reneged on, he has a case under promissory estoppel.

    He already has a case for libel based on statements made by spez.

    Pandantic,
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    And didn’t they tell him there would be no major API changes, specifically in terms of cost “in 2023”?

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