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Its_Always_420, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?
@Its_Always_420@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve just been using Edge when Firefox wont open a site. It’s installed by default and it’s just Chrome under the hood so it works. Plus, after Google’s new hostility to ad blocking I refuse to use any Chrome based browser as my default so one is as good as the other to me. They’re all just a temporary tool until I go back to using the only real web browser that I can, Mozilla Firefox.

hperrin,

Edge isn’t installed by default on any of the computers I use, and I’m not a huge fan of all the junk they put in it.

Also I just downloaded it on Mac and it’s a .pkg file, so that really sets off alarm bells.

Its_Always_420,
@Its_Always_420@lemmy.world avatar

It’s Chrome, it’ll be loaded with trash no matter what. There’s no clean version of garbage that you can install.

hperrin,

100% truth.

flop_leash_973, in Tech workers - what did your IT Security team do that made your life hell and had no practical benefit?

Ours is terrible for making security policy that will impact technical solution options in a vacuum with a few select higher level IT folks and no one sorts out the process to using the new “secure” way first. Ending up in finding out something you thought would be a day or 2 task ends up being a weeks long odyssey to define new processes and technical approaches. Or sometimes just out right abandoning the work because the headache isn’t worth it.

lightnsfw,

Ours does this too. Except they stick to their guns and we end up having to just work around the new impediment they’ve created for months until it happens to inconvenience someone with enough pull to make them change it.

disconnectikacio, in Tech workers - what did your IT Security team do that made your life hell and had no practical benefit?

Very short screensaver timeouts, useless proxy, short timeouts from intranet pages, disabled browser extensions, to make impossible to automatize our very repetitive work, daily DB access requests for work, etc.

AstralWeekends,

Screensaver?

son_named_bort, in Cookie purchase or hell?

Believe it or not, Hell.

JimmyBigSausage,

Great! See you there!!!

Bhaelfur, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?
@Bhaelfur@lemmy.world avatar

I just discovered Thorium the other day.

Diabolo96,

I’ve been using it for a few months now and it’s great. Firefox is my main browser but a chromium based one is good to have. Wonder why it asks for my password every now and then but think it’s likely auto update stuff.

hperrin,

Now this looks promising! The list of improvements and patches looks really nice.

mesamunefire, in Tech workers - what did your IT Security team do that made your life hell and had no practical benefit?

We cant run scripts on our work laptop because of domain policy. Thing is, I am a software developer. They also do not allow docker without some heavy approval process, nor VMs. So im just sitting here remoting into a machine for development…which is fine but the machine is super slow. Also their VPN keeps going down, so all the software developers have to reconnect periodically all at the same time.

At my prior jobs, it was all open so it was very easy to install the tools we needed or get approval fairly quickly. Its more frustrating than anything. At least they give us software development work marked months out.

pahlimur,

Thought my work was bad. We at least can use VMs. I literally can’t do my job without one, Rockwell being what it is. Companies don’t like upgrading PLC software so I need to use old versions of windows occasionally to run old Rockwell stuff.

There was also a bug for a bit that would brick win11 PCs when trying to update PLC firmware, fun stuff.

afraid_of_zombies,

Same boat. I use dedicated laptops. This is for my old Rockwell stuff, this is for my old Siemens stuff, this is my normal laptop with AD stuff, this one for Idec, and the last one for Schneider. Pretty much every laptop at the company gets retired it becomes mine.

Also works for on site access. Customer needs support? Mail them a laptop. I got one laptop that has been in Canada, both coastlines in America, Australia, and Vietnam.

Krudler,

I cannot remember the specifics because it’s going back almost 15 years now but at one point…crontab (edit and other various vital tools) was disabled by policy.

To get necessary processes/cleanup done at night, I used a scheduled task on a Windows PC to run a BAT that opened a macro program which opened a remote shell and “typed” the commands.

Fuuuuuuck.

afraid_of_zombies,

I hate this stuff. When I had a more devops role I would just VM everything. Developers need their tools, here is a VM with root. Do what you want and backups run on Friday.

SpookySnek,

My dev pc isn’t allowed to be connected to the internet :D

mesamunefire,

Yep you have it the worst. Shut down the thread.

SpookySnek,

Wait, I haven’t even started talking about the fact it’s a huge unstructured legacy project using SharePoint 2016 and…

Where did everyone go?

afraid_of_zombies,

I had a software developer job where they expected me to write code in Microsoft notepad, put it on a USB, and then plug it into airgapped computers to test it. Wasn’t allowed to even use notepad++.

Oh it felt so freaken good leaving that job after 6 weeks. It felt even better when I used my old manager’s personal phone number on a fake grinder profile I made. She kept a tally of my bathroom breaks.

PutangInaMo,

Jump systems are a good practice but they gotta have the resources you need… I hate to say it but it sounds like y’all need to just move to a cloud platform…

geogle, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?
@geogle@lemmy.world avatar

Does the DDG browser report back to Google?

hperrin,

I would assume not, but isn’t that a mobile only browser?

geogle,
@geogle@lemmy.world avatar

They have a Mac version and a Windows beta, but I don’t think there’s one for Linux available yet.

hperrin,

I didn’t know that! Awesome! I hope there’s a Linux version soon, then I’ll probably switch to it.

AtmaJnana,

No, they report to Bing. It caused a stink when “discovered” by the media, but it is part of their licensing agreement with Microsoft to use Bing results.

Their search is fine, but don’t use their browser.

Rin, in Tech workers - what did your IT Security team do that made your life hell and had no practical benefit?

Mozilla products banned by IT because they had a vulnerability in a pervious version.

RantIt was so bullshit. I had Mozilla Firefox 115.1 installed, and Mozilla put out an advisory, like they do all the fucking time. Fujitsu made it out to be some huge huge unfixed bug the very next day in an email after the advisory was posted and the email chain basically said “yk, we should just remove all Firefox. It’s vulnerable so it must be removed.” I wouldn’t be mad if they decided that they didn’t want to have it be a managed app or that there was something (actually) wrong with it or literally anything else than the fact that they didn’t bother actually reading either fucking advisory and decided to nuke something I use daily.

Dicska,

Nah mate, they were completely right. What if you install an older version, and keep using it maliciously? Oh wait, now that you mention, I’m totally sure Edge had a similar problem at one point in the past. So refrain from using Edge, too. Or Explorer. And while we’re at it, it’s best to stay away from Chrome, as well. That had a similar vulnerability before, I’m sure. So let’s dish that, along with Opera, Safari, Maxthon and Netscape Navigator. Just use Lynx, it’s super lightweight!

EDIT: on another thought, you should just have stopped working for the above reason. Nothing is safe anymore.

Krudler,

Can’t use Lynx either.

www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2010-2810/

All web pages must now be phoned in via a touch-tone system, and delivered on paper printouts via regular post.

PoolloverNathan,

Touch-tones had some sort of vulnerability too; you’re going to have to mail in your HTTP requests.

indepndnt, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?

I just saw someone on Mastodon saying they replaced Chrome with Vivaldi, so maybe that?

ominouslemon,

Vivaldi is pretty good. It’s my second choice of browser after Firefox

themurphy, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?

Maybe I’m out of the loop, but what did Brave do?

hperrin,

Their latest thing that pushed me to look for a new testing browser is installing a system wide VPN on your computer without your consent.

Rylyshar, in Cookie purchase or hell?
@Rylyshar@lemmy.world avatar

Not for a retail purchase such as that. It’s just the default screen in many payment systems now.

I see some folks commenting that they don’t tip fo “to-go” — I always do, usually about 15%, because an employee went through the process of putting your order together and putting it into containers that cost that business money. And if it’s a place I order from often, they often remember that and are extra nice.

Knusper, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?

I tend to use Falkon, which is developed by the KDE community…

hperrin,

I don’t see a Mac build. Are they planning to support Mac?

Knusper,

Oh, I rather doubt it.

It is built on top of Qt, so I assume, theoretically, it wouldn’t be terribly difficult to do the port, but you need someone who regularly tests+fixes it under macOS. And well, it’s a non-commercial project, so you need someone who volunteers to do that…

hperrin,

The KDE team is awesome, and they already have Mac devs. So maybe if people show support for it, they’d do it. :)

Knusper,

Possible, yeah. Falkon was previously an independent project (QupZilla). I don’t know how much they’ve intermingled with the other KDE devs yet, but that’s certainly no insurmountable problem either.

MagneticFusion, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?

Why not just base Chromium?

hperrin,

I don’t like Google trackers.

intensely_human,

You don’t want google tracking you while you test your website? Why not?

darklukee,

Does vanilla Chromium have Google trackers?

hperrin, (edited )

Yes. www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-privacy/

But not nearly as many tracking mechanisms as Chrome, because it lacks API keys for some services. By default, it will still send the URL of every page you visit to Google, though. At least that’s my understanding, reading their privacy policy.

But it also doesn’t update itself, doesn’t seem to have a working Mac build (the one on their website doesn’t launch), and doesn’t sync (which I can live without, but end-to-end encrypted sync is nice).

darklukee,

Thanks!

MagneticFusion,

ungoogled chromium then

hperrin,

Yeah, this is a contender. No Windows build and no sync are the downsides, but neither is a deal breaker, since I’m only testing with it, and I code on Linux and Mac.

jiberish,

If you’re using Windows, Edge is an option. You already have the Microsoft telemetry watching you regardless of using Edge, so you might as well use it if you need chrome for testing or a specific website.

MagneticFusion,

This

hperrin,

I try as hard as I can to never boot into Windows. The only time I ever do is to build a Windows version of one of my desktop apps.

shogun5000, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?

Scummy actions?

itsralC,

Apparently they installed a system-wide VPN without asking

hperrin,
GustavoM, in I use Brave to test whether my websites work on Chromium browsers, but their scummy actions lately make me want to find a new Chromium browser to test with. What's the best Chromium based browser?
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

There’s Thorium… which is basically “The same thing but with lots of tweaks”.

vodkasolution,

Thanks, I’m gonna give it a try, but I’m a bit confused: why are there a public, webview and shell version to download (android)?

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