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arquebus_x, (edited ) in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?

I'm sure there are some "data harvesting" reasons, but honestly, the simplest is likely the truest:

Most people aren't computer-savvy, and having an app is much easier for most users than going to a website (either directly or through a bookmark that they probably won't ever be able to find again).

One must remember, always and forever: most people aren't us/you. Just because something is easy for you to do doesn't mean it's easy for everyone else.

Is it dumb for me that T-Mobile has an app that just goes to a webview that I could get through my phone browser? Yes. Is it dumb for my parents? Absolutely ten thousand percent no.

The value (in terms of money made/saved/protected) that a company gets from having an app instead of a website only is probably ranked in this order:

1 - ease of use for the majority of customers, reducing tech and customer support calls, angry customers, lost goodwill, bad reputation
2-99 - same as #1
100 - data harvesting

Bizarroland, in If you got COVID and lost the ability to taste things, did it ever come back? Otherwise, did you experience any other long term consequences from the pandemic in general?
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

No long-term side effects from getting covid twice, my endurance didn't really change after I got better but it was kind of depressed for a week or so afterwards, and my sense of taste was gone for about 3 or 4 days.

Other than that, my dad got it once and now he's not alive anymore, so get your booster shots and mask if you want to.

shinigamiookamiryuu, in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?

I cannot speak for them, but I can relate to the idea. There’s one called Nobly that was based on a great idea but eliminated itself due to this.

DaCrazyJamez, in If you got COVID and lost the ability to taste things, did it ever come back? Otherwise, did you experience any other long term consequences from the pandemic in general?

I lost my job, does that count?

Bazoogle,

As in, the pandemic reduced revenue causing layoffs?

DaCrazyJamez, in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?

If a company require me to download or install something I ammost likly looking up their direct competitors

elvith,

…who usually require you to download their app, too - sadly

guyrocket, in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

ITT: No good reasons for these apps!

A_Random_Idiot, (edited ) in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?

most apps are just websites wrapped inside a container and made an app.

Why?

Because they dont want you to use the actual website.

why?

Cause your browser gives you a LOT of protection against invasive data mining/profiling/tracking/etc.(Not saying its perfect, We all know about fingerprinting and HTML5 canvas tracking and what have you…but its a LOT better than the information that apps can steal)

Data mining/profiling/tracking/etc that these companies want to do to you, because you are a product to them, not a customer.

And how do they do that with an app?

Permissions.

Ever wonder why your pizza ordering app has to have access to your contacts, data storage, camera, microphone, etc etc etc? Its not because its needed for you to order pizzas. Hell, you can do that on a website with no permissions, so why is it needed for an app on your phone?

So they can steal/mine your data for profiling/tracking/marketing/being sold to others/etc.

kameecoding, in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?

Weird I have seen the exact opposite as a complaint on reddit, Renessaince Periodization why is it not a native app and just a webpage

i guess people want different things

balderdash9, in what is a parental advice you wish you could give to your father/mother before they had you?

How about instead of cheating on my mom, teach me how to talk to girls… and don’t cheat on my mom lol

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yep, know the pain… dad didn’t cheat on mom, but he still didn’t teach me anything… about anything really… and now, I’m paying for it in a shitty marriage.

Well, at least I know I won’t make the same mistake with my son.

ramsgrl909, in what is a parental advice you wish you could give to your father/mother before they had you?

Say you love me… sometimes it’s hard to tell

cley_faye, in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?

From a technical point of view, it sometimes makes sense:

  • access to more interesting API
  • guaranteed persistent storage
  • no compatibility issues (different browsers, settings, extensions, etc.)

Of course, that’s just what could be done easier with an app. There’s also some less interesting points:

  • giving less control to the user
  • accessing more things than needed
  • making the experience worse by hooking every single events out of the webview

So… the answer is “because”.

Nonameuser678, in If you got COVID and lost the ability to taste things, did it ever come back? Otherwise, did you experience any other long term consequences from the pandemic in general?
@Nonameuser678@aussie.zone avatar

I lost what little faith I had left in our current arrangement of society and our capacity to cooperate within this context. My worst fears were realised as it became apparent just how many people, entire governments even, are more than willing to abandon the vulnerable to the capitalist machine. The fact that at one point people were trying to argue that death is actually not that bad and not being able to go to bars and cafes was actually the real injustice. I’d say that’s a pretty long term consequence for me personally.

Stoneykins, in Why are there so many apps that could be websites?

Some people are missing the forest for the trees here

Having a businesses app on your phone is better regular advertising than anything they could ever pay for.

They just want an excuse to make you look at their logo and think about their business as regularly as possible

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

Lemmy has a real problem with this. It’s like all of the angry people from Reddit came here and now we just have an angry circlejerk about anything the crowd doesn’t like.

bartolomeo,
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Username checks out

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

This is true

people tend to develop liking or disliking for things merely because they are familiar with them

and it’s amazing that basic psychological principles have been decoupled from mainstream awareness of marketing tactics (obviously intentionally).

Waffelson,

This is not a problem with the olauncher

Hadriscus,

Thanks I’m trying that

GreyShuck, in what is a parental advice you wish you could give to your father/mother before they had you?
@GreyShuck@feddit.uk avatar

Validate your child’s feelings. Let them know that you understand that they are scared and that it is ok to be scared.

acetanilide, in If you got COVID and lost the ability to taste things, did it ever come back? Otherwise, did you experience any other long term consequences from the pandemic in general?

I never lost taste/smell. But, I lost everything else. I can’t work anymore because of covid. It fucked me in the worst way. I’m an American and our disability system is fucked too. So I’ve been without pay for 2 years. I’m out of money. I don’t know what to do tbh.

Bazoogle,

I can’t work anymore because of covid

Why can’t you work anymore because of covid? Do you have a weakened immune system so you can’t risk being exposed to covid, or did you get covid and now have long covid symptoms? If it’s the second one, what long covid symptoms are preventing you from working? I believe you, but it’s just so vague that I’m not sure what you’re referencing

acetanilide,

Thanks for asking.

It’s actually both. I have some other health issues, so it’s not just the long covid, but covid was the last straw. From covid alone, I have heart issues, lung issues, GI issues, brain fog, extreme fatigue. And because of the heart issues, i currently cannot take any adhd meds, so my concentration is shit. I also experienced medical trauma during this time, so i have a bunch of mental health issues now too.

Basically, there is no part of my body that hasn’t been affected by covid. It is a terrible disease that i wouldn’t wish on anyone.

And yes, i am vaccinated and boosted, which i think is the only reason i didn’t die.

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