Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

It can sometimes be hard to separate the artist from their art. Are there any artists who were bad people but whose work you still enjoy?

Feel free to answer if you’re in the opposite scenario: an artist who you love personally but don’t enjoy their artwork.

Feel free to respond more than just music artists!

CyanideShotInjection, (edited )

I am a huge fan of black metal so often I have to filter out the ones with white supremacists members. But one I can’t help myself going back to is Burzum. What he brought to the atmospherical BM scene is huge and I hate that I love his early records so much…

farcaster,

Yeah I love black metal but it has some problematic people. “The Somberlain” by Dissection is a great album but I genuinely can’t enjoy it because of the person behind it…

CyanideShotInjection,

I know what you mean. Personnally I prefer Storm of the Light’s Bane, but I feel less bad about listening to Dissection cause the guy’s dead so not like he gets any money from me lol

isthingoneventhis, (edited )

Oh goddamnit, are dissection fuckwads too? I absolutely love their stuff and it took me a good while to stop listening to burzum after I found out he was a shitbag u. u

CyanideShotInjection,

Basically, Jon Nödtveidt, the lead guitarist/singer, was convicted for the killing of a gay algerian man. Two years after his release from prison he killed himself in a satanic ritual.

kylie_kraft,

Marilyn Manson - he had a slow slide from alcoholism to lecher creep to serial abuser. he spent 2009-2011 doing the worst shit to women that you can imagine.

Brand New - turns out that Jesse was a groomer of underage girls.

Arcade Fire - Win Butler is a sex pest.

Smashing Pumpkins - not at all in the same category as the others, but goddamn does Billy Corgan suck. he was always known as a first-class egotist, but he just kept being an asshole long after his prime had become a distant memory. then the weird shit started: crackpot conspiracy theories on Myspace, palling around with Alex Jones on Infowars, dropping alt-right buzzwords in interviews. the latest album is an extended allegory on cancel culture. worse, it’s mostly unlistenable.

Kiernian,

palling around with Alex Jones on Infowars, dropping alt-right buzzwords in interviews

That saddens and actually kinda shocks me.

I would have expressed ZERO surprise to news of him going so far to the LEFT that he ended up miles beyond hippie dippie new agey and founded his own Heaven’s Gate cult (The central belief of the which was that followers could transform themselves into immortal extraterrestrial beings by rejecting their human nature, and they would ascend to heaven)…but this is…honestly weirding me out.

Wasn’t he going so far into eastern spirituality that he was recording himself reading the entirety of the Bhagavad Gita at one point or something?

gzrrt,
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Tom Otterness, the sculptor. He might not be a shitty person anymore, though (it's really up to you).

hperrin,

Idk if its authors count as artists, but I’m a fan of the US Constitution. A lot of its authors were slave holders though, so nearly the worst a person can be.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

This is probably a controversial one. As someone who studied modern political history, the U.S. Constitution is - taken completely subjective for its time, authors, situation, etc. - an amazing piece of human achievement. It’s a shame that so many people view it was some static command from the past, rather than the living document that it’s authors intended it to be.

farcaster,

I like the music by Demons & Wizards, a metal band, which was formed as a collaboration between Blind Guardian’s Hansi Kürsch (vocals) and Iced Earth’s Jon Schaffer (guitar). Their first album from 1999 is legendary imo.

So let’s see what Jon has been up to since… Oh. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55626148

southsamurai,
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Great fucking band, shitty person lol

CarlsIII,

I was a huge Iced Earth fan before that day. Fuck that guy.

CarlsIII,

Yeah. Megadeth

TheFonz,

Nooo… I’m ootl what happened?

CarlsIII,

Well he’s always been a notorious asshole, but he’s been publicly saying especially stupid shitty things since, well, since Obama was elected President.

TheFonz,

Maybe he never got over that Metallica rift after all

vormadikter,

…came here to write Mustaine. Beat me to it.

andrewthe95th,

Pantera. Maybe it was Dimebag’s death that caused it, but holy shit Phil is fucking awful.

Blamemeta,

Whatd he do?

Baahb,

Nazi shit

Hegar,

My wife honestly loves the paintings of the war criminal george w bush.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Aren't they all just portraits of military men?

sheilzy,

Most of the Bush paintings I’ve seen are of dogs, lol.

Hegar,

No idea. It's the style she appreciates. Ironically, she finds it very innocent.

CarlsIII,

I thought his most famous one was a portrait of himself being sad in the shower

smashboy,

That Putin painting is so hilariously bad lol

CADmonkey,

I enjoy a lot of books written by Larry Niven. But in real life he seems to be a bit of a pro-government totalitarian.

dingus,

Kanye had some real bangers early in his career. I still listen to them and have them in my playlist.

BigPotato,

At a certain point, I acquired some CDs and just ripped the songs. If I’m in a Dropout mood, I’ve got the option to listen without him getting a cent. And I found the CDs secondhand too.

Okokimup,
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JK Rowling

ryry1985,

Bill Cosby

ivanafterall,
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I'm currently watching We Need to Talk About Cosby. It's extremely well-done, but predictably brutal.

Witchfire,
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Crystal Castles. Keith is an asshole.

reversebananimals, (edited )

Billy Corgan.

The music of Smashing Pumpkins got me through some very dark times as a teenager, but finding out he hates me because I’m gay snapped that personal connection. I’m usually able to separate the art from the artist and still enjoy good stuff made by bad people, but I’m not able to enjoy them anymore. The connection was too personal and the betrayal was too great.

Synthead,

Billy attempted to sell an Alesis SR-16 that was used in his band for $30k. It’s a $100 drum machine. He was selling it himself. No charity or anything; he just tried to hyper-inflate a very common drum machine that is still produced because he thought he added that value to it by owning it. That was pretty weird.

Cenzorrll,

I mean, in the sense of music history it is worth more than any other random one you can find on the street. But maybe somewhere around $500 - $1000 if it was signed by the band.

distantsounds,

Smashing Pumpkins in the 90s were so good, but yeah fuck Billy Corgan.

Macaroni_ninja,
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Roman Polanski - great director but its also a pedophile scumbag

sheilzy,

Sometimes I wonder if he became pedophilic because of his sad life. Between losing family in the Holocaust and losing more family and friends in the Tate/LaBianca murders by the Manson family, he must felt like his life was out of control. But it’s easy to control teenaged girls into having sex with you. Or maybe the genocide and murders he experienced had nothing to do with his sins. But it’s something I think about occasionally. I’ve seen only a couple of his movies so far but I notice some themes from his life, like the death of babies or babies being evil, and I feel like it’s some personal allegory.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

I don’t care what makes someone a pedophile they deserve no sympathy.

ivanafterall,
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Woody Allen, too.

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