Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

It can sometimes be hard to separate the artist from their art. Are there any artists who were bad people but whose work you still enjoy?

Feel free to answer if you’re in the opposite scenario: an artist who you love personally but don’t enjoy their artwork.

Feel free to respond more than just music artists!

Nemo,

Roman Polanski comes to mind.

Maddie,
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Joss Whedon

PonyOfWar,

HP Lovecraft - great writer, horrible racist

Similarly, Orson Scott Card - Ender’s game and its sequel are great, but he’s a raging homophobe.

tal,
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I mean, by present standards, most people historically would have been pretty racist.

PonyOfWar,

Indeed, though Lovecraft has the distinction of being pretty racist even for his time.

ThunderingJerboa,
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He was certainly above that. Hell his story "Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family" also known as "White Ape". Is literally a book about the "one drop rule" to the point its actually funny because of how absurd it comes off as. Its so insanely racist, it fucking becomes funny based on the character's reaction. Its not a great short story but basically he find out his great great great great grandmother was a "white ape" (which is not human per say but lets read between the lines since the white apes come from the congo region), his response to this news was pouring gasoline on himself and burning himself alive. Like yes its fiction but the fact he made a fucking short story where the focal point is discovering that you are mixed race and learning that is so mind breaking, death was the only logical option is god damn hilarious.

Badabinski,

I'm convinced that Orson Scott Card suffered a traumatic head injury at some point. I don't know how you could go from writing something as beautiful and intimate as Ender's Game to shit like Hidden Empire, which is creepy right wing Christian disaster porn (from what I can remember of that trainwreck).

qantravon,

Yeah, I don’t know how the person who wrote “Speaker for the Dead” could be such a bigot. It doesn’t make sense to me.

b3an,
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This 100%.

My username comes from Enderverse.

TheMinions,

Ender’s Shadow was an interesting book. Really made me appreciate Bean more than I did when I read Ender’s Game.

Tedesche,

It’s pretty simple: the bugs weren’t gay.

Cruxifux, (edited )

HPL actually repented his stark conservatism and racism in his later years but yeah.

ivanafterall,
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I didn't realize this.

Cruxifux,

I’m really sad that Max Landis is a piece of shit because now we don’t get to see Dirk Gently season 3.

bionicjoey,

I assumed it was because of how poorly written Season 2 was…

I say this as someone who likes Season 2. Bart, Dirk, Amanda, and Farah are all terribly underutilized in S2

Cruxifux,

I loved season 2

bionicjoey,

Alan Tudyk is awesome in it. And I really like Ken’s arc. I just wish Dirk didn’t spend literally the whole season complaining about how dangerous he is. It’s such a tone shift from the first season.

Telstarado, (edited )

Back in the day I used to love many of the fantasy novels by David Eddings (e.g. Belgariad, Mallorean) but after learning about the terrible child abuse he and his wife were prosecuted for, I can’t look at them the same way.

Tattorack,
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Well… Shite. I read those books. I liked those books. Just a few days ago I was wondering if there were any more books set in that world.

Now I don’t wanna…

snaprails,
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Oh, I just learned something new 🙁

DestroyerOfWorlds,

goddamnit, TIL

spittingimage,
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That’s the problem with threads like this - you meet your heroes.

ani,

No

IcyRain,

MCA Chris Avellone, turned out to be a sex pest or something, kind of broke my heart a bit with that.

loobkoob,
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That one appears to have turned out to not be the case, fortunately. He wrote up a very long post with a lot of receipts (which is worth a read). He filed a libel suit against his two accusers, which ended up being settled out of court with a large payout in his favour and with the accusers retracting their accusations, categorically saying he had never sexually abused either of them (or any other women to their knowledge).

It was satisfactory enough for me, personally.

AngryishHumanoid,

Tom Cruise. I don’t know what weird pathways cross in a brain to get that deep into Scientology without realizing what bullshit it is, but he is an amazing actor. He understands the craft, he is not shy about poking fun of himself, and by all accounts he is a consummate professional and treats the film crew well and has given gifts/thrown parties for them, etc.

But Scientology, yeesh…

RBWells,

I want to hate him so badly. But he is so good. I remember when he was cast as the vampire and I was pissed, having read the books it made no sense that Mr. Top Gun Fast Times at Ridgemont High as an undead vampire.

Saw the movie and had to eat my words, he had become a gaunt undead vampire. What the actual fuck. He was fantastic. Ever since that, I kind of trust he will be good in anything.

Num10ck,

wait Tom Cruise wasnt even in Fast Times??

AngryishHumanoid,

See how he just disappears into the role? We never even knew he was IN it!

RBWells,

Oh God you are right I am just conflating all those movies I avoided so successfully. I just mean until then he played characters so straight and gung ho and active and shiny. No way I could have cast him, whoever did saw something that nobody else did and they were right.

I still want to hate him. But do think he’s a gifted actor.

kometes,
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Perhaps you are thinking of Risky Business?

Quazatron,
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Same, I loved his character in Tropic Thunder, he can even do comedy.

Cano,

Surprised no one mention that one austrian painter with the funny moustache

ivanafterall,
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He wasn't really much of an artist.

phoenixz,

You love Hitlers paintings?

Cano,

Nah, but it’s just a really convenient joke opportunity. I’m surprised no one mentioned it

BruceTwarzen,

Which of his paintings do you enjoy the most?

Cano,

Gonna be honest, I did not see anyone of his paintings

deegeese,

Dude couldn’t even get into art school. Much more promising as an author.

Macaroni_ninja,
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Roman Polanski - great director but its also a pedophile scumbag

sheilzy,

Sometimes I wonder if he became pedophilic because of his sad life. Between losing family in the Holocaust and losing more family and friends in the Tate/LaBianca murders by the Manson family, he must felt like his life was out of control. But it’s easy to control teenaged girls into having sex with you. Or maybe the genocide and murders he experienced had nothing to do with his sins. But it’s something I think about occasionally. I’ve seen only a couple of his movies so far but I notice some themes from his life, like the death of babies or babies being evil, and I feel like it’s some personal allegory.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

I don’t care what makes someone a pedophile they deserve no sympathy.

ivanafterall,
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Woody Allen, too.

reversebananimals, (edited )

Billy Corgan.

The music of Smashing Pumpkins got me through some very dark times as a teenager, but finding out he hates me because I’m gay snapped that personal connection. I’m usually able to separate the art from the artist and still enjoy good stuff made by bad people, but I’m not able to enjoy them anymore. The connection was too personal and the betrayal was too great.

Synthead,

Billy attempted to sell an Alesis SR-16 that was used in his band for $30k. It’s a $100 drum machine. He was selling it himself. No charity or anything; he just tried to hyper-inflate a very common drum machine that is still produced because he thought he added that value to it by owning it. That was pretty weird.

Cenzorrll,

I mean, in the sense of music history it is worth more than any other random one you can find on the street. But maybe somewhere around $500 - $1000 if it was signed by the band.

distantsounds,

Smashing Pumpkins in the 90s were so good, but yeah fuck Billy Corgan.

Witchfire,
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Crystal Castles. Keith is an asshole.

ryry1985,

Bill Cosby

ivanafterall,
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I'm currently watching We Need to Talk About Cosby. It's extremely well-done, but predictably brutal.

Okokimup,
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JK Rowling

dingus,

Kanye had some real bangers early in his career. I still listen to them and have them in my playlist.

BigPotato,

At a certain point, I acquired some CDs and just ripped the songs. If I’m in a Dropout mood, I’ve got the option to listen without him getting a cent. And I found the CDs secondhand too.

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