Corporate Censorship Bring You Here?

Pure curiosity:

If you left reddit or another corporate platform under the banner of not being censored by their views or beliefs, what was that?

Wait. Before we open this can of worms, I’m not at all curious about an in-depth explanation of unpopular views or opinions that are generally extremist or that most reasonable people consider extreme. More of:

  • I left reddit or some other because they censor…?
  • The lemmy community is more for me because?
  • I reasons my instance policies or moderators are better than the other platform is?
  • The other platform restricted opinions or views regarding…?

If you feel like sharing, just summarize the general idea, please no indoctrination speeches.

Oh boy…

lud,

I came because they removed third party apps.

I still use old.reddit.com because the content is still better than on here.

The memes here are pretty terrible. Many of the communities that i follow haven’t migrated. There simply isn’t enough content and a sizable portion of the content that exists is very annoying compared to on Reddit.

Still, I probably use Lemmy more than Reddit due to the apps.

I occasionally use reddit in the browser on mobile but the experience is terrible so I pretty much only check out r/sysadmin (yes I know that there is a similar sub on here, but it’s very small)

I personally don’t really have much against Reddit except the apps issue. They have done a lot of stupid stuff, but meh.

lightnsfw, (edited )

I was banned from Reddit for saying child molesters deserve to be tortured in horrible ways.

Days later I see a similar thread of people saying the same type of shit about business executives with no action taken against them. I opened a ban appeal to inquire what I did differently than these dozens of comments but all I got back was a canned response that the ban would stay in effect. The only conclusion I can draw from this is that Reddit wants to create a safe space for child molesters. So yeah, fuck that site.

Nomecks,

I just got sick of everything becoming a profit driven cesspool. If open-source social media can take hold it could radically change our whole society. I have to help it get there.

Delta_V,

Just the opposite.

I left reddit because they don’t censor nazis hard enough and will actually ban people for reporting hate speech, calling it an “abuse of the reporting system”.

ghostdoggtv, (edited )

It wasn’t about censorship, it was about the platform losing respect for its users.

This wasn’t my reddit handle if that’s what you’re wondering next, have fun looking.

Rhynoplaz,

Censorship had nothing to do with me leaving. I couldn’t use my app anymore, and I didn’t like theirs, so I found something else.

MightEnlightenYou,

Yeah, same here. I find that the quality of posts, comments and culture is significantly worse here than on reddit but I don’t want to use reddit anymore because of the API stuff.

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Can you give any examples? We’d definitely like to know where we can improve things for the better ❤️

numberfour002,

Like others, the final thing that prompted me to leave the corporate r-word site was the decision to start charging for the api that forced most of the 3rd party apps out of operation.

The inconsistent, impersonal, and at times improper censoring was already pushing me away before the api change, though. I don’t mind safe spaces and civility being a precondition to participation, but if you’re going to ban people for being uncivil or using a subset of derogatory terms, then be consistent about it.

One of the many tiresome things that happened to me is that I got a warning about being banned site-wide for using one of the banned words in a completely innocuous and generally contextually acceptable way. My comment was something like “you can use baking soda to [redacted verb which in this context is commonly used to mean slow or delay] the growth of mold.” in a post about that topic.

The warning I received was basically, “you’re on our list now, and further infractions will result in a site-wide ban” and of course my otherwise helpful and relevant comment was deleted. Also, there was no way to respond or ask for clarification that I could find, as this was an admin warning, not something from a moderator of a sub. Anyway, a warning like that was obviously obtuse and stupid, but whatever.

What made it irksome is that after that incident, any time I noticed a post, title, or comment using that same word (or some variation of it like td, f*ck td, sh*t t**d, etc) in a derogatory manner, I would report it. And invariably, the comment would not get removed and I’d get the response back “we investigated but did not find it to be in violation of our policies.”

Granted, I also took issue with the fact that the banned terms list was woefully inadequate at addressing the dozens of disparaging terms that were frequently used to target the LGBT+ community and which for some reason where considered completely acceptable by the corporate r-word site.

And no, I don’t think Lemmy is any better on the consistency / censorship front, and in fact is inherently worse in some ways as a result of the general decentralized architecture.

Coskii,
@Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sounds like you were handling some asbestos, because that is flame retardant is absolutely cancerous.

MSgtRedFox,
@MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub avatar

I’m curious about the down votes for the post.

They want less discussion about the topic?

Or they don’t like the idea not having anonymity?

CluckN,

If I had to guess probably because Asklemmy has been getting anti-Reddit circlejerk question posted every week since July.

MSgtRedFox,
@MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub avatar

Ah. Understood.

MightEnlightenYou,

Is a leading question. And in my experience 95% of people who are focused on "censorship"

  1. Don’t know what it really means (there’s a huge difference between moderation and censorship)
  2. Have a victim complex.
  3. Are generally uncomfortable to engage with and usually deserve their bans for various reasons.
Vanth,
@Vanth@reddthat.com avatar

They killed 3rd party apps. Their official app was shit for normal user stuff and completely non-functional for moderator stuff.

I can’t even say “I left”. More like they removed my access.

Sporky,

I left reddit because they got rid of the app I like (reddit is fun) and I absolutely can’t stand their app or new.reddit.com. Simple as that.

I was a power user in several exclusive subreddits (exclusive to heavy reddit users, not like the Lounge) but none of it outweighed how much I hate the UI.

I certainly got downvoted for opinions sometimes but I wouldn’t call that censorship.

Nemo,

No, I came because of:

  • the removal of essential moderation tools
  • the insertion of ads and promoted content
  • the huge data requirements of the official app

So kind of the opposite of censorship. I came because there’s too much low-quality content.

TimewornTraveler,

I didn’t leave Reddit

but I came here for the same reason I use adblock

justlookingfordragon,
@justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world avatar

The API changes woulnd’t even have affected me directly - I don’t use any apps, never used bots, and was part of a sub that was noticable more friendly and clean than a whole lot of similar subs, no toxicity but interesting content and very active mods.

But it didn’t sit right with me how nonchalantly u/spez disregarded any and all complaints, didn’t give a shit about people who would be literally unable to use his site with the changes he wanted to implement (the majority of people in r/blind for example), openly mocked everyone that wasn’t a bootlicker and still to this day thinks that he did everything right and “crushed the protests” and all that jazz. This guy lives in his own little bubble in which he is convinced the dumpster fire he calls reddit is the best thing since sliced bread and he’s a genius without fault.

Fuck u/spez.

I deleted everything I had contributed to that site over the course of 9+ years, nuked my account and moved to LW instead. I’m still in the process of reformatting and reuploading everyting I had removed from the former site, but I feel a lot more at ease having my guides, art etc. hosted on a site that isn’t a corporate shitfest run by a delusional egomaniac with an army of astroturfing bots.

…and in retrospect, it was about high time I jumped ship, as my former main sub has gone down the drain big time since that debacle. The original creator hasn’t done anything in months, the formerly active mods obviously don’t give a shit about scammers, repost bots and trolls anymore (or they, too, have simply left) and the most upvoted posts and comments are always some cringey regurgitated meme spam and low-effort shitposts. I’m glad I am no longer part of that, albeit in a bittersweet way. It feels like seeing an Ex that you formerly adored turn a crackhead hobo after you broke up.

Sylvartas,

I dropped Reddit because I was feeling like it was being heavily astroturfed (always has been, I know, but I think lately it’s been way worse) and also because fuck spez (for several reasons)

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

bot cencorship but privacy

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