Who's going to pay for the reconstruction of Gaza

I was wondering who is going to pay for the reconstruction of all the razed apartment buildings, schools and hospitals in Gaza? Are the US and Europe going to do that, or is Israel going to do at least this?

I am genuinely curious what the US (Americans) think about this, they provide Israel with munitions and military aid which are used to destroy civilian buildings and infrastructure in Gaza and then they will pay once again to restore them?

DoomBot5,

As long as Hamas still stands there won’t be any reconstruction. They take all the concrete imported to build their terror tunnels instead.

AlmightySnoo,
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Being downvoted to oblivion simply for stating what Hamas themselves are bragging about, they’re the ones boasting them being able to turn water pipes into rockets and construction materials into bombs. But of course anyone supporting Hamas will never tell you openly that they do so, so those internet warriors express their support for the terrorists instead “anonymously” with downvotes.

NoIWontPickaName,

Here's something really clear. Fuck Hamas and their terrorist attacks.

Here's something even more clear. Fuck Israel and their murdering innocents, stealing land, killing children, killing journalists and all the other shit.

Why do you only condemn the symptoms and not the cause.

tallwookie,

because the solution to the cause is what’s occurring now.

NoIWontPickaName,

And what is that solution and how do you feel about it?

tallwookie,

the solution is what is happening in Gaza right now

AlmightySnoo, (edited )
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Given how Iran actively funds the rockets that are being launched from residential rooftops in Gaza, and how Qatar is casually financing the lavish lifestyles of the Hamas leaders living in Qatar (enjoying paradise on earth while they convince their jihadists of committing terror in the hopes of entering paradise after death), I don’t think it would be a problem for them to also spare some money for the reconstruction, right?

Iran’s oil revenue should be seized and their money in foreign banks should be frozen until we arrive at the reconstruction process, assuming the war even ends, so that the frozen assets pay for that, both for Gaza and Israel.

deadcatbounce,
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Can I remind you that the US has already had a hand in replacing the leadership once and how that turned out.

AlmightySnoo, (edited )
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That’s besides the point, my comment didn’t exclude any other financing, feel free to argue for others also chipping in. Now, why would you be opposed to forcing Iran to pay for their sponsoring of terrorism? Why do you believe Iran shouldn’t pay?

deadcatbounce,
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I’m not.

I’m against the US interfering militarily covertly or otherwise in matters because it usually ends up creating more of a mess than it was before.

gravitas_deficiency,

The US https://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/6/history_of_bp_includes_role_in - lest we forget that even back then, it was all about oil.

deadcatbounce,
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Fair point. Perhaps you know who was the major player. I really can’t tell which one: BP or The United States? So difficult to tell.

NoIWontPickaName, (edited )

Is Israel going to pay even more for funding hamas and helping to create support them in the first place?

AtmaJnana, (edited )

That’s a conspiracy theory. I spent 30 minutes searching and found no evidence Israel ever materially supported Hamas. At most they tolerated and maybe encouraged them as a counterweight to Fatah.

NoIWontPickaName,

I found one where they controlled the purse strings and talked about how keeping Hamas helped them keep Palestine down.

I'll give you opinion but not conspiracy theory

AlmightySnoo, (edited )
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  • NoIWontPickaName,

    Let me make this plain for you.

    Support innocents on both sides.

    Fuck Hamas and Israel both for their actions against innocents.

    Now will you say the same or try to call me antisemitic again?

    I might he wrong, about them supporting Hamas but I doubt Israeli newspapers would lie about about Netanyahu supporting Hamas and funding them years ago.

    I believe it was a times of Israel article but i will see if i can find and link it

    AlmightySnoo,
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    Don’t evade the “and create them in the first place” that you put out there.

    tallwookie,

    perhaps Qatar is the fabled Jannah? yeah, Iranian financial lockdown is coming soonish

    TheBananaKing,

    They don’t want to reconstruct it, they want to raze it to the ground and kill everyone, then oh look free land.

    banana_meccanica,

    No one will pay, there is no reconstruction on planning, that is an eternal war there will be never a winner and there is no sense to build on an battlefield.

    SHamblingSHapes,

    It will be a political debate point for decades to come, as how to support Israel has been a point of debate for decades past.

    US politics at the foreign policy level can change dramatically every election cycle. I can’t guess what their policies might be in the next 1, 5, 10 years.

    Pons_Aelius,

    US politics at the foreign policy level can change dramatically every election cycle.

    Yes, they can but they don't.

    Bitrot,
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    They won’t in this case. Israel can do nearly anything, the US will even condemn some of them, but that won’t affect support. As Biden has said many times “if there was no Israel the US would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region.”

    tallwookie,

    the ideology changes though!

    Pons_Aelius,

    When it comes to foreign policy there is no real difference between D and R.

    R invaded Iraq on a lie.

    D stayed there and kept it going.

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